Members bolton_blondie Posted January 12, 2021 Members Share Posted January 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Spider said: Oh eck. hope it’s easier on him than your mum. He will be reet. Paracetemol and fluids I've told him. Gonna lend him my pulseoximeter to check his spo2. He thinks I kill off my patients like the angel of death though so won't listen to anything I say. Daft sod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 12, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: So long as any given vial does have enough for 6 then makes sense to use it. Perhaps some are a little less willing if there isn't official authorisation, or if they're not aware of it. I'm not being funny, but its not rocket science If any centre is chucking a 6th of each vial away questions need asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Casino said: I'm not being funny, but its not rocket science If any centre is chucking a 6th of each vial away questions need asking I can't see that happening, if it is, then heads need to roll, but like i say, I really doubt that it's happening on a regular/consistent basis anywhere. It's such a valuable vaccine, that I'd have thought they're counted out and counted back in again at the end of each day, with every single drop/dose accounted for, no way would they be allowed to have nigh on 17% wastage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 12, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Casino said: I'm not being funny, but its not rocket science If any centre is chucking a 6th of each vial away questions need asking I agree. You know full well what regulations are like, especially in the medical profession. I've not heard whether or not the mhra (or whoever can make the decision) have approved it, nor if it is already standard practice. If they are sold as 5 dose vials, at least we're not chucking away stuff that we've paid for, just the 'excess'. Still should be using it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 12, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sweep said: I can't see that happening, if it is, then heads need to roll, but like i say, I really doubt that it's happening on a regular/consistent basis anywhere. It's such a valuable vaccine, that I'd have thought they're counted out and counted back in again at the end of each day, with every single drop/dose accounted for, no way would they be allowed to have nigh on 17% wastage As I've highlighted, they're counted as 5 dose vials. So none of the 5 are wasted; but the excess fill needs to be utilised if there is enough for a 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, bolton_blondie said: He will be reet. Paracetemol and fluids I've told him. Gonna lend him my pulseoximeter to check his spo2. He thinks I kill off my patients like the angel of death though so won't listen to anything I say. Daft sod. Check his Will first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: As I've highlighted, they're counted as 5 dose vials. So none of the 5 are wasted; but the excess fill needs to be utilised if there is enough for a 6th. I get that, but the vials will be filled using incredibly high precision machines that will be calibrated every single day. No way are they putting anywhere near enough "excess" vaccine in to leave sufficient after 5 doses to administer a 6th. That just sounds ridiculous. Of course there will be a +/- tolerance, but not knocking on for 20% I wouldn't have thought. If people are getting 6 jabs out of a "5 jab" vial, then I'd look at who is giving the inoculations and test their eyesight, as they're probably underdosing And I'm very sure they won't be able/allowed to make up a dose using the remnants from 3 or 4 different vials would they? Edited January 12, 2021 by Sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted January 12, 2021 Members Share Posted January 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Check his Will first Daddys girl. I'm gonna be fine 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 12, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sweep said: I get that, but the vials will be filled using incredibly high precision machines that will be calibrated every single day. No way are they putting anywhere near enough "excess" vaccine in to leave sufficient after 5 doses to administer a 6th. That just sounds ridiculous. Of course there will be a +/- tolerance, but not knocking on for 20% I wouldn't have thought. If people are getting 6 jabs out of a "5 jab" vial, then I'd look at who is giving the inoculations and test their eyesight, as they're probably underdosing And I'm very sure they won't be able/allowed to make up a does using the remnants from 3 or 4 different vials would they? Agree with everything there. No way would they be sucking up dregs from separate vials. However, its been observed from those doing the work, that there is indeed enough for a sixth dose. Esco put a link up which confirmed the European regulator has allowed them to get a sixth shot from them. I too am amazed they're putting in some much extra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Agree with everything there. No way would they be sucking up dregs from separate vials. However, its been observed from those doing the work, that there is indeed enough for a sixth dose. Esco put a link up which confirmed the European regulator has allowed them to get a sixth shot from them. I too am amazed they're putting in some much extra. see i told you lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Useless media chump asks exactly the same question as a member of the public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 12, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I agree. You know full well what regulations are like, especially in the medical profession. I've not heard whether or not the mhra (or whoever can make the decision) have approved it, nor if it is already standard practice. If they are sold as 5 dose vials, at least we're not chucking away stuff that we've paid for, just the 'excess'. Still should be using it though. Just had my daily q and a Odd ones don't have enough for 6 Its probably sensible to say 5 So, I can call off the dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 We must be fucked if wheeling out Priti seems a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 12, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2021 Just now, Casino said: Just had my daily q and a Odd ones don't have enough for 6 Its probably sensible to say 5 So, I can call off the dogs. Makes absolute sense. Would put too much onus on those giving injections. Do wonder why they top them up so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 12, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Useless media chump asks exactly the same question as a member of the public Understandable when she didn't answer the question On another note, why didn't she listen when told to say G at the end of the word Shes nearly as annoying as rayner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Casino said: Understandable when she didn't answer the question On another note, why didn't she listen when told to say G at the end of the word Shes nearly as annoying as rayner I can't take her seriously anymore. Thick as mince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 12, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Sweep said: I get that, but the vials will be filled using incredibly high precision machines that will be calibrated every single day. No way are they putting anywhere near enough "excess" vaccine in to leave sufficient after 5 doses to administer a 6th. That just sounds ridiculous. Of course there will be a +/- tolerance, but not knocking on for 20% I wouldn't have thought Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, mickbrown said: I can't take her seriously anymore. Thick as mince. Surprised you ever took her seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 12, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: I can't take her seriously anymore. Thick as mince. I dunno if she's thick or not and its not actually that important how she talks, but I just can't concentrate on the content Like I said, nowhere near as bad as Raynes though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: Surprised you ever took her seriously I have her the benefit of the doubt until that interview. Now she'll be forever remembered as thick as pig shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: I have her the benefit of the doubt until that interview. Now she'll be forever remembered as thick as pig shit. Aah, hindsight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: Aah, hindsight Not really. You'd expect cabinet ministers not to be thick. They might be amoral, repugnant fuckers, but you'd expect them to be intelligent at the very least. Apparently not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: Not really. You'd expect cabinet ministers not to be thick. They might be amoral, repugnant fuckers, but you'd expect them to be intelligent at the very least. Apparently not. In Or Out Again mickbrown replied to miamiwhite's topic in Behind The Stands My favourite fuckwit of the lot isPriti . She’s ace she is. Be tough on the perpetrators of counter terrorism and look after the victims of counter terrorism. Genius that lass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 45k infections each of last 2 days. Compared to 60k per day last week. Hopefully start of a trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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