Gonk Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 14 hours ago, jmjhb said: Some fucker has just made all that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Horwich said: I hope the teachers can cope with a couple of weeks in school, before their two weeks holiday at easter. You fucking hate teachers don't you? Did your PE teacher take the piss at your uncoordinated efforts to kick a ball when you were a kid or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted February 22, 2021 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2021 I am not a big fan of teachers. They will do whatever they can to get out of doing the job that they are paid for. Double fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Horwich said: I am not a big fan of teachers. They will do whatever they can to get out of doing the job that they are paid for. Double fact. I'm sure lots of teachers will have done great work for their pupils over the last year. The extreme Unions are the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 22, 2021 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Spider said: These 4 stages. Going to be 5 weeks between each one. Thats 20 weeks to full lift. Or, Mid-July. They aren’t rushing. And neither should they, seems they've learnt from last time Schools was the main one If that all goes to plan social gatherings back on when the weather is getting better Loads of BBQs in April Can't complain really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Seems like half are complaining we're opening up too quickly, and the other half are saying it's too slow. So it's probably the right pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Horwich said: I am not a big fan of teachers. They will do whatever they can to get out of doing the job that they are paid for. Double fact. Fucking nonsense. Have you got kids? Edited February 22, 2021 by mickbrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, Mr Grey said: Pointless opening schools and Colleges from Match 8th, Easter is 2 weeks off, why risk infections. After Easter all back en-masse, by that time the infection rate will hopefully be small and the majority of people over 50 will have had the vaccine, surely that's a more sensible approach. If they don't do a phased return, I think it's fucking stupid. Israel have a phased return - infants and last 2 years of secondary in for 1 day so far, only in areas with low cases - all the rest not back in for another month - they have vaccinated 50% of the population with at least one shot, nearly all eligable adults over 30yrs old - 30% have had 2 shots - on 8th March we will have done 25% with about 2% having 2 shots. An extra 4 weeks of closed schools, is an extra 10 million vaccinated, many in the age group that are parents of secondary and college kids. Almost all of those 10 million would have massivley reduced risk of getting ill, or if they do, getting ill seriously, less chance of passing it on, etc, a few weeks after the vaccine. They're bascially saying it's a herd immunity experiment for school kids and their parents, everyone back in, off you go, let's see how the numbers rise, and if it's manageable, FFS. Cases in September, before the kids went back last time had been below 1,000 a day for 10 weeks, - we are still at 11,000 today, and the current strain is more virulent than back then. It took us less than 3 weeks to go from 10k to 20k when the schools were open last time, with the case rises initially in the young and middle aged - it will happen again. Have they learnt nothing! short term pain = long term gain. Hospitalisations as a % of the infected in the 30 - 60 yr old age is high - they don't die anywhere near as much as the oldies, but they still end up in hospital in large numbers. 2 fucking weeks - extend the summer term by 2 weeks FFS many kids don't give a shit about the online learning, it's the socialising, playing outside, having a game of footy that they're missing and which will restore mental health and wellbeing and is masivley less infection risk - let them do that instead - having indoor classes 2 weeks before easter aint going to give them much more benefit than waiting until after. Edited February 22, 2021 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted February 22, 2021 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Fucking nonsense. Have you got kids? I have. None of them are teachers, so I don’t see what you are trying to get at 🤷🏻♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 P1-3 back today up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Horwich said: I have. None of them are teachers, so I don’t see what you are trying to get at 🤷🏻♀️ So your kids have left school? Mine's in year 11. Her teachers are still running a full timetable, the lazy fucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted February 22, 2021 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, mickbrown said: So your kids have left school? Mine's in year 11. Her teachers are still running a full timetable, the lazy fucks. Great. They are doing what they are paid for and I am sure they wont moan when they have to leave the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Absolutely agreed, it doesn't make sense to me, and they are basically saying to Teachers and education staff "your okay, just get on with it, you dont matter, fuck you". I know some on here don't agree and just want their kids back in school, but it is in effect an herd immunity exercise, you may as well write of education this year. I have a feeling they just want to use this 2 week period to test all the kids once back in, they have sent out testing kits to all Schools/Colleges and they want them to take 2 test per week, basically it's one big testing excersise. And what do they do then when infections go through the roof, which they will ? I think we all know the answer to that....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, mickbrown said: Fucking nonsense. Have you got kids? On this we can agree, Horwich is under the impression teachers are off work, they ain’t and are teaching at school and via online lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroySwoosh Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 horwich is just a miserable fucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 53 minutes ago, mickbrown said: So your kids have left school? Mine's in year 11. Her teachers are still running a full timetable, the lazy fucks. Yes, because schools havent been fully open since December, people who don't what's going on have the misconception that teachers have been on their holidays for two months.They haven't.My neighbour who is a teacher is doing online lessons full time and also has the utter bollox of having to arrange an online play for 10 year olds because the Head reckons it will be good for them.The one bright spot is the teacher won't have to take them on holiday this year.Last years "holiday" involved leaving school on Friday afternoon on a coach with them and arriving back Sunday night...then a full weeks school with them.I admire folk who suffer that shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Horwich said: Great. They are doing what they are paid for and I am sure they wont moan when they have to leave the house. Take it you're self employed, what with you posting during work time 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, peelyfeet said: If they don't do a phased return, I think it's fucking stupid. Israel have a phased return - infants and last 2 years of secondary in for 1 day so far, only in areas with low cases - all the rest not back in for another month - they have vaccinated 50% of the population with at least one shot, nearly all eligable adults over 30yrs old - 30% have had 2 shots - on 8th March we will have done 25% with about 2% having 2 shots. An extra 4 weeks of closed schools, is an extra 10 million vaccinated, many in the age group that are parents of secondary and college kids. Almost all of those 10 million would have massivley reduced risk of getting ill, or if they do, getting ill seriously, less chance of passing it on, etc, a few weeks after the vaccine. They're bascially saying it's a herd immunity experiment for school kids and their parents, everyone back in, off you go, let's see how the numbers rise, and if it's manageable, FFS. Cases in September, before the kids went back last time had been below 1,000 a day for 10 weeks, - we are still at 11,000 today, and the current strain is more virulent than back then. It took us less than 3 weeks to go from 10k to 20k when the schools were open last time, with the case rises initially in the young and middle aged - it will happen again. Have they learnt nothing! short term pain = long term gain. Hospitalisations as a % of the infected in the 30 - 60 yr old age is high - they don't die anywhere near as much as the oldies, but they still end up in hospital in large numbers. 2 fucking weeks - extend the summer term by 2 weeks FFS many kids don't give a shit about the online learning, it's the socialising, playing outside, having a game of footy that they're missing and which will restore mental health and wellbeing and is masivley less infection risk - let them do that instead - having indoor classes 2 weeks before easter aint going to give them much more benefit than waiting until after. On this I agree, it’s noticeable that the spikes are more pronounced once schools , colleges & unis open, hospitality isn’t the main driver, this is going to cause another spike and amongst the age groups 40 and under who aren’t vaccinated and whos age group contain the vast majority of parents. Lockdown 4 on its way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: I know some teachers who are pretentious pricks, but most are genuinely in the job to educate our kids, they work well above their hours during term time to make sure mine and your kids get an education, and they are now involved in the more social domestic issues that kids have outside school, so it quite disingenuous of you to state what you have done, and they aren't that well paid. Amen brother.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Anyone who thinks teachers have had an easy time of it over the past year is bonkers. The leaders of the unions may be complete wankers but in my experience the same does not apply for the people they are representing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted February 22, 2021 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: On this we can agree, Horwich is under the impression teachers are off work, they ain’t and are teaching at school and via online lessons. Am I bollocks. I know they are doing online classes. The ones I know are going this from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Grey said: Absolutely agreed, it doesn't make sense to me, and they are basically saying to Teachers and education staff "your okay, just get on with it, you dont matter, fuck you". I know some on here don't agree and just want their kids back in school, but it is in effect an herd immunity exercise, you may as well write of education this year. I have a feeling they just want to use this 2 week period to test all the kids once back in, they have sent out testing kits to all Schools/Colleges and they want them to take 2 test per week, basically it's one big testing excersise. And what do they do then when infections go through the roof, which they will ? It should be phased in, the youngest first in areas of low infection, for a few days at a time - they are least likely to become ill, and their parents are on average younger too - see how the infection rates go, then take it from there. Imagine if you're an old parent, without a vaccine in a poor area, with high infection, like Middlesbrough - 250 per 100k versus a young parent in a well off area with a low infection rate, like cheltenham - 28 per 100k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted February 22, 2021 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Take it you're self employed, what with you posting during work time 🙂 I am on leave, prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Back to tier systems up here rather than a return to normality per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Back to tier systems up here rather than a return to normality per se. Probably makes sense up there given it’s the urban areas with high rates and large swathes of Scotland with little or no infections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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