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9 minutes ago, Casino said:

On the way?

Weeks, months, years?

If it was owt like imminent, this whole .ockdown would be presented in a different way, imo

Something like, be patient, give us a few more weeks say... if it was presented like that, on a timeline of say, til december, you would get better buy in

As it is, i know many, many generally law abiding folk wont be following all the rules 

And thats a cherry topped FACT

And of course it will be the governments fault entirely that they’ve chosen to ignore the rules. 

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12 minutes ago, Casino said:

On the way?

Weeks, months, years?

If it was owt like imminent, this whole .ockdown would be presented in a different way, imo

Something like, be patient, give us a few more weeks say... if it was presented like that, on a timeline of say, til december, you would get better buy in

As it is, i know many, many generally law abiding folk wont be following all the rules 

And thats a cherry topped FACT

Sorry to bring the Czechs into this again but they’ve already ordered theirs for the end of the year.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Boby Brno said:

Sorry to bring the Czechs into this again but they’ve already ordered theirs for the end of the year.

 

 

Why isn’t this bigger news?

This is fucking massive

Like Casino says, give people a target and we might just come out of this unscathed by new year.

 

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4 minutes ago, Spider said:

Why isn’t this bigger news?

This is fucking massive

Like Casino says, give people a target and we might just come out of this unscathed by new year.

 

Is it too much to hope it will be part of Boris announcement on Monday? 
 

probably but here’s hoping 

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3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Why isn’t this bigger news?

This is fucking massive

Like Casino says, give people a target and we might just come out of this unscathed by new year.

 

It's going to take ages to get it rolled out unfortunately.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/09/who-unveils-global-plan-fairly-distribute-covid-19-vaccine-challenges-await

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Just now, fatolive said:

Even if everyone doesn’t get it , surely some getting it would have a positive effect on the spread rates ? Would that be correct ? 

Yes definitely, and if you target the health workers and the vulnerable first, even more positive effect. I can't see it starting until early 2021, hope I'm wrong, buy that's what I'm reading as the most likely. In the US they want 2 months of monitoring the phase 3 trial before moving to roll out, and the phase 3 trial aint finished yet, so even if it finished tomorrow, that's early Dec, and I'm fairly sure US will get first dibs.

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Letting the virus rip through populations also increases the chance of mutation. Every time the virus breaks into a cell, it has the opportunity to mutate. It would be horribly ironic if it does end up mutating because a large population went for natural herd immunity. Its unlikely to happen though, from what ive read, but the chance increases with every new infection.

 

When I say mutate, I mean mutate in a way that renders the current vaccines ineffective 

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34 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

And of course it will be the governments fault entirely that they’ve chosen to ignore the rules. 

Not entirely

I do however think it would be the right thing that i allow my kids to continue see their respective other halves

And i wont be going 6 months speaking to nobody other than folk at work and my wife and kids

Its just not healthy

Like ive said, im too old for a life like that

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9 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Letting the virus rip through populations also increases the chance of mutation. Every time the virus breaks into a cell, it has the opportunity to mutate. It would be horribly ironic if it does end up mutating because a large population went for natural herd immunity. Its unlikely to happen though, from what ive read, but the chance increases with every new infection.

 

When I say mutate, I mean mutate in a way that renders the current vaccines ineffective 

i do accept you know your stuff, apart from massively underestimating how many have had it, so was it you who said that over time the virus will weaken itself as it doesnt want to kill its host?

Something like that?

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1 hour ago, Spider said:

Why isn’t this bigger news?

This is fucking massive

Like Casino says, give people a target and we might just come out of this unscathed by new year.

 

I remember it being mentioned almost as an afterthought and a sweetener at the end of one of the briefings a few weeks ago but then hardly discussed. I've a feeling there might be some sort of injunction out in the media perhaps, because there's loads going on.

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15 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

I think just procuring freezers big and cold enough has been a major headache.

Can we not have it on tap in those Guinness Extra Cold pumps at every pub.

Free pint and a vaccine.

Now get back to fucking work.

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3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Can we not have it on tap in those Guinness Extra Cold pumps at every pub.

Free pint and a vaccine.

Now get back to fucking work.

Mix it into the Carling and the Dark Fruits as well, get everyone covered. Even maybe Holts.

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