Site Supporter Spider Posted November 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I bet you don't back a nag on name alone. Usually I do. It’s no less reliable than thinking you can predict what a ton of dog food on legs is going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted November 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Casino said: I dont think you get how close industry is to collapsing like one of those domino things No, is it? I always got the impression you'd rather crack on than not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 9, 2020 I would but we now have 15% off due to either positives or isolating and the fun hasnt even begun yet if they get track and trace functioning, long shot i think manufacturing will be decimated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Casino said: I would but we now have 15% off due to either positives or isolating and the fun hasnt even begun yet if they get track and trace functioning, long shot i think manufacturing will be decimated Ah!!!!! You've cracked it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted November 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Casino said: I would but we now have 15% off due to either positives or isolating and the fun hasnt even begun yet if they get track and trace functioning, long shot i think manufacturing will be decimated My thinking is that we get the old and vulnerable out the way then other restrictions can start to ease, including isolating without symptoms, stuff like that Am hoping it won't be "everyone" needs vaccinating before we aim to get back to normal No point in vaccinating the younger and healthier ones first so they can crack on and still spread it to those who's bodies can't cope Let's face it, soon as the vaccine is out and about loads will fuck off caution anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Pointless vaccinating old folks as priority Having paid taxes for longer than younger folk, perhaps they have earned their protection. Understand the point, and would agree if they could be properly shielded until sufficient vaccine is available, but we dont know how long that would be. That said, I reckon there is an argument to give it to schools for kids/teachers as they're being kept open, irrespective of what restrictions are in place. Would help protect the old indirectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Having paid taxes for longer than younger folk, perhaps they have earned their protection. Understand the point, and would agree if they could be properly shielded until sufficient vaccine is available, but we dont know how long that would be. That said, I reckon there is an argument to give it to schools for kids/teachers as they're being kept open, irrespective of what restrictions are in place. Would help protect the old indirectly I’m easy But, as kids don’t pass it to teachers, I’d see that as missed opportunity I think we should vaccinate those with the potential to be most active. But, nowt I can do about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) The bloke who organised that lockdown protest in manchester has been fined 10k Edited November 9, 2020 by L/H White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, L/H White said: The bloke who organised that lockdown protest in manchester has been fined 10k Good. We need more of that to happen. People who go on marches/protests are fucking weirdos anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, L/H White said: The bloke who organised that lockdown protest in manchester has been fined 10k Did you see the video of the police turning up at shinnys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I saw that. Did someone grass him up for having a bash or summat? Didn’t look too interested did they 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sweep said: Good. We need more of that to happen. People who go on marches/protests are fucking weirdos anyway agreed, the only ones I agree with/like is the puffter ones in manchester and blackpool 10 minutes ago, royal white said: Did you see the video of the police turning up at shinnys? I havent mate, what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, L/H White said: agreed, the only ones I agree with/like is the puffter ones in manchester and blackpool I havent mate, what happened? 4 Police turned up at his apartment to issue him a fine. Obviously he went live with it 🤦♂️ It Ended up with him abusing the coppers for a few mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said: No point in vaccinating the younger and healthier ones first so they can crack on and still spread it to those who's bodies can't cope Surely if someone has been vaccinated then they can no longer spread it as they have immunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Surely if someone has been vaccinated then they can no longer spread it as they have immunity? I thought that, but Jonathan Van Tam was saying that that's not a given. Yet. Need more time to see how it works. Did seem odd, but I'm sure that's what he was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Fair enough According to this 20m doses on order, with 5m available this side of Xmas.... Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine: ‘Normal life by spring’ after jab stops 9 in 10 infections https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/normal-life-by-spring-after-pfizer-vaccine-stops-9-in-10-covid-infections-hrkth2jss you’d imagine NHS staff will be first, that’s fair enough (1.2m) along with care workers who look after the vulnerable (1.6m) with the extremely vulnerable (2m) surely next in line. They had to Shield in lockdown 1 so that’s only fair Beyond that I’d say it’s a bit of a free for all (or should be). Part of the reason Hancock pushed back on the ‘barrington declaration’ was because of long Covid. If that really is as bad as they think it might be then it’s hard to distribute the vaccine based on age alone. After all we’ve all had to observe the same restrictions I’d say some of the key workers who are unable to self isolate should get it first (Teachers, Supermarket staff, factory workers) then the rest of us at random after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 Number 11. All others, priority to be agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine: ‘Normal life by spring’ after jab stops 9 in 10 infections Normal life by spring? - I think that's being a tad optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, L/H White said: The bloke who organised that lockdown protest in manchester has been fined 10k Boysy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sweep said: Normal life by spring? - I think that's being a tad optimistic As i've said the data has not been peer reviewed, also does it have any side effects, if its doesnt great, if it does what are they, that why the data as to be peer reviewed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sweep said: Normal life by spring? - I think that's being a tad optimistic Aye. Seems there was a phone interview, not heard it bar this comment, so maybe slightly out of context. Dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sweep said: Normal life by spring? - I think that's being a tad optimistic That quote is from John Bell, regius Professor of Medicine at Oxford University If they can get the first 5m done this year with another 15m early 2021 then you’d assume the risk to the NHS would be diminished to such an extent that we would all be in tier 1 at the very least, that wasn’t far off what most would regard as normal life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Going forward I wonder if travel between countries will require you to take a test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 What’s all this about some mutant version doing the rounds in Denmark? Travel restrictions on anyone / anything coming out of the place apparently Only caught the back end of it so I might be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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