Site Supporter Spider Posted December 12, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Casino said: While we might say put up with it a few more weeks cos its sensible, its not sensible for places hangimg on by their finger nails Especially as london has just had a few weeks to top up the coffers, with worse numbers Aye nightmare in truth can they make enough money under tier 2 to make it worthwhile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Casino said: While we might say put up with it a few more weeks cos its sensible, its not sensible for places hangimg on by their finger nails Especially as london has just had a few weeks to top up the coffers, with worse numbers Indeed, although it must be said a lot gaffs struggle to balance the books with the silly rules and curfews. If theyre going to open, get em open properly. No curfew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 12, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 12, 2020 I reckon itll make a massive difference to a restaurant currently doing takeaways Ive just booked for the 28th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 12, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, gonzo said: Indeed, although it must be said a lot gaffs struggle to balance the books with the silly rules and curfews. If theyre going to open, get em open properly. No curfew. I thought theyd scrapped curfew having admitted it was just put in for shit and giggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 We're tier 3 in a Lincolnshire village. Over the last few days grandad and grannie from North Wales are stopping over next door, a known undercover policeman has been going in and out of another neighbour's house in shooting garb, no one wears masks in a newly opened Asian owned ex-co-op and I walked past a house gathering this afternoon while dog walking. I was beginning to wonder is it all over and nobody has told me? Big spike coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Spider said: Everyone Tier 3 until Feb. Mark my words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 12, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 12, 2020 Interesting one this Test loads of asymptomatics Find positives that would be otherwise undetected Spike in figures Tier 3 for you saps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Casino said: Interesting one this Test loads of asymptomatics Find positives that would be otherwise undetected Spike in figures Tier 3 for you saps Yes, I skirted over that the other day. Bolton is on the list for testing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 21,502 new cases & 519 new deaths in UK today That's over 6,000 more cases & over 120 more deaths than last Sat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Casino said: Interesting one this Test loads of asymptomatics Find positives that would be otherwise undetected Spike in figures Tier 3 for you saps Didn’t happen in Liverpool. Tier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Spider said: Aye nightmare in truth can they make enough money under tier 2 to make it worthwhile? I said the other day, we're in T2 here, most pubs and a lot of restaurants haven't bothered to open, it's just not worth it, as you still can't mix households in said pubs/restaurants, it's a massive waste of time. So even if you go to T2, it might not make a great deal of difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: 21,502 new cases & 519 new deaths in UK today That's over 6,000 more cases & over 120 more deaths than last Sat. The death rate will be up in the 700s in a couple of weeks I reckon, purely based on the rapid rise that London is seeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, DaisyHWanderer said: As much as i wanna go for a pint and some food, feels a bit stupid to move us into tier 2 now just before xmas when household mixing is going to increase anyway. If it means another month of lockdown in January then id rather wait two weeks and move down post new year. Although i’m gagging for a pint, this is the most sensible option imo. Edited December 12, 2020 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted December 12, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: 21,502 new cases & 519 new deaths in UK today That's over 6,000 more cases & over 120 more deaths than last Sat. To me, that says 1 of 2 things. Lockdown was a waste of time or they have manipulated figures to try and get people to put a lid on it over xmas. I suspect the latter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaisyHWanderer Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Burndens Bogs said: As much as i want a pint, this is the most sensible option imo. Which based on the rest of this year, means the gvt will elect to do the exact opposite. Edited December 12, 2020 by DaisyHWanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said: To me, that says 1 of 2 things. Lockdown was a waste of time or they have manipulated figures to try and get people to put a lid on it over xmas. I suspect the latter Im going with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Sweep said: I said the other day, we're in T2 here, most pubs and a lot of restaurants haven't bothered to open, it's just not worth it, as you still can't mix households in said pubs/restaurants, it's a massive waste of time. So even if you go to T2, it might not make a great deal of difference I quoted a Tweet from Sadiq Khan the other day where he said that it would be catastrophic for the hospitality business in London if they went into tier 3. We’ve been in it for weeks now, I’ve lost count. Who’s right? Fof the record, it’s not just about pubs and having a pint. It’s the restaurants and cafes and hotels. It’s the suppliers to these businesses. It’s the hairdressers who’s business has dropped because people aren’t going out. It’s the taxi drivers because people aren’t going out, etc. etc. It’s not about the pubs and a pint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 12, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Im going with this. For the very first time, I’m inclined to agree. I reckon this wave peaked 2 weeks ago. This increase doesn’t add up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Spider said: For the very first time, I’m inclined to agree. I reckon this wave peaked 2 weeks ago. This increase doesn’t add up Unless it didn't peak two weeks ago....and it's still yet to peak 🤔 I have a horrible feeling that Christmas is going to be followed by a large spike. I'd not be surprised to see areas currently in T3 to stay in it next week, and areas like mine in T2 be shoved up into T3. London will go T3, but waiting until next week is ridiculous, they should be in it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, Sweep said: I have a horrible feeling that Christmas is going to be followed by a large spike. London will go T3, but waiting until next week is ridiculous, they should be in it now Totally agree, we'll end up paying heavily for this 5 day bubble bollox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said: 21,502 new cases & 519 new deaths in UK today That's over 6,000 more cases & over 120 more deaths than last Sat. Must be the seasons changing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted December 12, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 People are past caring, roads been busy all day next door has been a constant stream of visitors, groups of people meeting etc. Even our solicitor has it atm which might stall our house move again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Whether we like it or not, the country is London-centric. London needs to be Tier 3 and if that happens, other areas won't (and shouldn't) drop down from 3 to 2. this 5-day Xmas farce is going to see the infection (and ultimately death) rate rise so rapidly in January that they'd better make sure the Nightingales are fully ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just checked Liverpool’s figures and they are still going down even though they are in Tier 2. They are currently 241st in the country with a rate of 90.6/100,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 13, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2020 12 hours ago, Biggish Dave said: To me, that says 1 of 2 things. Lockdown was a waste of time or they have manipulated figures to try and get people to put a lid on it over xmas. I suspect the latter One day's figures? The overall figures (especially averages over 7 days) are positive. That said DaisyHWanderer makes a sensible suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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