Coronavirus

[birch-chorley 641]

15 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Only another 20k cases and 500 plus folk dead but Open the boozers alround eh 🙄

Think the idea would be the get these 10m doses out first, they are due in a matter of days / weeks though, surely great news 

With the vulnerable about to get a vaccine you can make a decent case for easing restrictions this side of Xmas in line with tier 2 or 3, with further loosening in the new  year when the rest of the vulnerable get sorted 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Cases down again

I actually don't care too much about cases

Testing is a lot more widespread than first time round

Even deaths, tragic as it is for those directly affected, 1000 folk die every day

It may as well be covid as pneumonia or flu, which may well be the killer anyway

Relevant figures are deaths and hospitalizations

Imo

[Escobarp 1,394]

16 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

Think the idea would be the get these 10m doses out first, they are due in a matter of days / weeks though, surely great news 

With the vulnerable about to get a vaccine you can make a decent case for easing restrictions this side of Xmas in line with tier 2 or 3, with further loosening in the new  year when the rest of the vulnerable get sorted 

 

 

I was being facetious mate 

[only1swanny 146]

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

I actually don't care too much about cases

Testing is a lot more widespread than first time round

Even deaths, tragic as it is for those directly affected, 1000 folk die every day

It may as well be covid as pneumonia or flu, which may well be the killer anyway

Relevant figures are deaths and hospitalizations

Imo

Prefer less people getting it, which leads to fewer people getting hospitalised and then fewer people dying. 

At least if numbers are going down at one end, the other will reduce eventually, but you're right, it's all just random numbers in reality. The government will spin it whichever way suits them best. 

Think it's 4 wards full atm at Bolton, that's a lot more than seasonal flu and pneumonia

[Spider 2,064]

All it proves is that lockdowns and restrictions work.

Doesnt actually improve our odds of normality.

[Tonge moor green jacket 1,520]

21 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Prefer less people getting it, which leads to fewer people getting hospitalised and then fewer people dying. 

At least if numbers are going down at one end, the other will reduce eventually, but you're right, it's all just random numbers in reality. The government will spin it whichever way suits them best. 

Think it's 4 wards full atm at Bolton, that's a lot more than seasonal flu and pneumonia

Random numbers?

I think not.

Countries that have performed the best, with fewer cases and deaths have done so for a variety of reasons that have given their positive results. Far from random.

[Boby Brno 430]

Cases are what drive decisions around the world. When cases go up, they are followed by hospitalisation then followed by deaths. When cases start to drop, the reverse happens. We’ve had this for 10 months now and still people don’t understand.

Meanwhile in South Australia, they’ve had 36 cases. Time for a ‘circuit breaker’ lockdown.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-australia-54983104

[Tonge moor green jacket 1,520]

5 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

Cases are what drive decisions around the world. When cases go up, they are followed by hospitalisation then followed by deaths. When cases start to drop, the reverse happens. We’ve had this for 10 months now and still people don’t understand.

Meanwhile in South Australia, they’ve had 36 cases. Time for a ‘circuit breaker’ lockdown.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-australia-54983104

Amazing. Chalk and cheese in approach. 

[only1swanny 146]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Random numbers?

I think not.

Countries that have performed the best, with fewer cases and deaths have done so for a variety of reasons that have given their positive results. Far from random.

They've changed all the parameters that drive the data since this stared, it's now deaths within 28 days of a positive test. 

They don't retest people in Hopsital, 

They ignore the numbers if they don't suit and use the ones that do. 

Zero faith in the government in all this. 

[boltondiver 1,336]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

I actually don't care too much about cases

Testing is a lot more widespread than first time round

Even deaths, tragic as it is for those directly affected, 1000 folk die every day

It may as well be covid as pneumonia or flu, which may well be the killer anyway

Relevant figures are deaths and hospitalizations

Imo

I agree

Zico didn’t 

[Boby Brno 430]

16 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

I agree

Zico didn’t 

Cases are a prediction of what is to come. Deaths are the result. 
 

[Lt. Aldo Raine 101]

An interesting bit on T cell immunity:

 

[only1swanny 146]

14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

An interesting bit on T cell immunity:

 

So basically the more exposed you are to different viruses, the stronger your immune system and the more able you are to fight it off.. 

[Winchester White 255]

2 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

So basically the more exposed you are to different viruses, the stronger your immune system and the more able you are to fight it off.. 

Sounds like it. If you are a nurse for example coming into contact with lots of ill people I bet your immune system gets lots of practice 😄

[only1swanny 146]

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/royal-bolton-hospital-now-five-19302212?fbclid=IwAR0erreVxz8GCiWJR1jL16lvob_FT2JZN-dAkAZ4jPgDtG1CChJsArs0yQc

Five wards. 

Absolute lie about having no hospital based transmissions though, 

[little whitt 464]

daughter got tested monday 8 at her place have in now 

was positive  no signs whatever just got a cold that is it 

but they said its COVID 

[Lt. Aldo Raine 101]

1 hour ago, only1swanny said:

So basically the more exposed you are to different viruses, the stronger your immune system and the more able you are to fight it off.. 

I just thought it was useful that we might be getting to a place where we can begin to quantify the section of the population who might not be as at threat from the diseae.

[ZicoKelly 1,743]

3 hours ago, Boby Brno said:

Cases are what drive decisions around the world. When cases go up, they are followed by hospitalisation then followed by deaths. When cases start to drop, the reverse happens. We’ve had this for 10 months now and still people don’t understand.

Meanwhile in South Australia, they’ve had 36 cases. Time for a ‘circuit breaker’ lockdown.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-australia-54983104

I applaud this approach

[ZicoKelly 1,743]

2 hours ago, boltondiver said:

I agree

Zico didn’t 

Start at the source

Kill the spread as early as possible

Do what you can to quell cases and you will quell hospilsations and deaths

No point in waiting for the latter two to rise before asking "what do we do to stop this?"

Stable doors and horses bolting springs to mind

[tyldesley_white 167]

News from across the pond, pfizer will be asking the FDA for emergency clearance at the end of this week,  they are hoping at being able to use the vaccine in the 2nd or 3rd week in December, but that is still dependent on the FDA.

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1 case if person is 90 is likely an issue

100 cases aged 20, likely isnt

Youve got to dig deeper than cases

Hospitalisation figures as a percentage of cases wil surely be lower this time round as we are now catching more of the young asymptomatics

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1 minute ago, tyldesley_white said:

News from across the pond, pfizer will be asking the FDA for emergency clearance at the end of this week,  they are hoping at being able to use the vaccine in the 2nd or 3rd week in December, but that is still dependent on the FDA.

i know somebody who thinks they are likely working boxing day giving out vax

[Winchester White 255]

https://www.facebook.com/BBCQuestionTime/videos/1518006615054415/

[Boby Brno 430]

23 minutes ago, Casino said:

1 case if person is 90 is likely an issue

100 cases aged 20, likely isnt

Youve got to dig deeper than cases

Hospitalisation figures as a percentage of cases wil surely be lower this time round as we are now catching more of the young asymptomatics

Sure but it’s all about controlling the spread. 100 20 year olds could soon become 1,000 etc.

[Casino 2,327]

they could, indeed should, be isolating

Edited November 18, 2020 by Casino