Escobarp Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Not wanting to be a damp squib but if anyone thinks we are gonna be in a position to be back to normal or even on a path to that before summer then get your head, place a hand on each side of it and give it a gentle wobble. I hope I’m wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, boltondiver said: 2m/week for the 20m vulnerable, so 10 weeks Fingers crossed I'd be pleasantly amazed if we're anywhere near that mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 28, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Escobarp said: Not wanting to be a damp squib but if anyone thinks we are gonna be in a position to be back to normal or even on a path to that before summer then get your head, place a hand on each side of it and give it a gentle wobble. I hope I’m wrong You will be IF we approve AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Casino said: You will be IF we approve AZ And that’s where my hope Is firmly placed because I’m sick to death of it all now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, jmjhb said: I'd be pleasantly amazed if we're anywhere near that mate! Me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Not wanting to be a damp squib but if anyone thinks we are gonna be in a position to be back to normal or even on a path to that before summer then get your head, place a hand on each side of it and give it a gentle wobble. I hope I’m wrong If we can get 15m vaccinated then 99% of the risk goes That would take 12 weeks in a normal year, if we can increase the number of injections per week 2 fold then it should be done by March If we aren’t all in Tier 1 or 2 by mid February I will be very disappointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Escobarp Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, birch-chorley said: If we can get 15m vaccinated then 99% of the risk goes That would take 12 weeks in a normal year, if we can increase the number of injections per week 2 fold then it should be done by March If we aren’t all in Tier 1 or 2 by mid February I will be very disappointed I think you are going to be terribly disappointed. That’s 6/7 weeks away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Based on some of the stories on here about Xmas rules then I think 50k a day will be smashed comfortably if the rest of society “interpreted” the rules in the same 2+3+4+7+3+8= 3 households manner Tbh I don’t think so in general. I don’t think that we broke the rules here. It was 3 at my brothers (2 if you count my mum as being in my brothers bubble) and 3 here as my stepdaughter is in our bubble. But it’s too confusing and some folk will have deliberately interpreted the rules to suit and some unwittingly Biggest thing for me is the supermarkets. Nipped to Tesco and Aldi today. It’s almost like pre Covid. No limit on folk entering, nobody wiping trollies or baskets down, and folk crammed into the aisles and self-checkout areas. And the pictures from The Trafford Centre the last couple of days...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Should caveat that with Ive been told to expect to be locked down/under restrictions until easter up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, Spider said: No evidence either way. The reading up I’ve done (and it’s limited so pinch of salt) suggests that most mutations are less harmful to the host but just want to be able to spread more effectively. As has been mentioned on here a few times, a virus isn’t doing itself much good by killing its host. I guess they can’t risk it. Its rattling through the Man City squad currently, I reckon it’s rife. Even if has the same virility, the increased cases means more deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: If we can get 15m vaccinated then 99% of the risk goes That would take 12 weeks in a normal year, if we can increase the number of injections per week 2 fold then it should be done by March If we aren’t all in Tier 1 or 2 by mid February I will be very disappointed We still don’t know who’s going to be giving the Oxford vaccine but you’d assume it’s likely to be people from the medical profession. But just this afternoon we’ve had the head of Public Health England telling us that the NHS is pretty much at breaking point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Aye them pics/videos I’ve seen of the Trafford centre good grief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 28, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, jmjhb said: I'd be pleasantly amazed if we're anywhere near that mate! A bolton practice recently opened on a saturday, just to do flu vax They did 400 in a day...about 6 hours Covid would take longer as you have to sign consent forms with a medic Another issue at the moment is lots of surgeries arent giving the vaccine, as they cant guarantee to dish out 900 in 3 days AZ, they will all be on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Appreciate that you have inside info But I still can’t help being thoroughly pissed off with it all, a few weeks a go we were swinging our dicks in peoples faces that we were first to approve the vaccine. The plan then was 1m a week with 5m injections this year, so far we aren’t even at 1m So something has gone drastically wrong since then for them to be so far off what they said, it’s a fucking shit show yet again! We are talking about fucking up millions of lives with further lock downs, making even more people unemployed, it’s bollocks. I’d rather the NHS collapse in all honesty, fuck it, times up for me Iirc, it was said 4m doses would be delivered this year. Then there was word about manufacturing problems. Can't inject it faster than it is made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 28, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Even if has the same virility, the increased cases means more deaths. And if it has 10% its lots less deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Casino said: A bolton practice recently opened on a saturday, just to do flu vax They did 400 in a day...about 6 hours Covid would take longer as you have to sign consent forms with a medic Another issue at the moment is lots of surgeries arent giving the vaccine, as they cant guarantee to dish out 900 in 3 days AZ, they will all be on it Very interesting. Let's hope the uptake is good. I said a few posts above but will expand a little - a GP in Preston was saying that the uptake was very low amongst BAME elders Edited December 28, 2020 by jmjhb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Casino said: And if it has 10% its lots less deaths No evidence of that yet though is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, birch-chorley said: More importantly, where are they up to with the vaccine? Only need to get 5m done and 50% of the risk goes So 50k cases a day has the same impact on the NHS as 25k cases a day had a few weeks back Along with all the so far unused nightingales, extra ventilators etc - We shouldn’t be facing an NHS collapse in January / February We've so far managed 600K in just short of 3 weeks haven't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Sweep said: We've so far managed 600K in just short of 3 weeks haven't we? But we will be in tier 1 by feb 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Iirc, it was said 4m doses would be delivered this year. Then there was word about manufacturing problems. Can't inject it faster than it is made. Of course you can’t, but the bottle neck isn’t getting it in the country, as Casino has said it’s complexity after that. GP’s surgeries worrying they might not get through a whole 900 injections, fucking about with consent forms ffs I wonder how many of the millions of people who have lost their jobs signed a consent form for that? Its bollocks Edited December 28, 2020 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: We've so far managed 600K in just short of 3 weeks haven't we? The AZ is different gravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 28, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: No evidence of that yet though is there. Theres no evidence that its worse, same or better It wouldnt be a shock to discover this mutation has weakened the virus Id be much more surprised if its gone the other way Ideally we get some figures to show whether deaths are from the known mutation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 28, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 28, 2020 59 minutes ago, Casino said: But does it kill folk Talk in some places that its a fast spreader but not as nasty I've read its faster meaning more people need treatment so hospitals fill up quicker And when that happens, more people die covid or otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 28, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: The AZ is different gravy I prefer anis analogy He was spot on We are going from michelin stars to mcdonalds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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