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My uncle lost his battle to this in Royal Bolton this morning, so he will be one of today’s numbers.  last rites over the phone held by a nurse with no family there. made an exception yester

That was one of the loveliest things to ever happen. Stood in my garden sobbing like a baby! Proud to work for the NHS 👏👏👏👏❤️

I’ve sat with my mum who is slipping away, literally breathing her last today. She idolises the Queen, and whilst she didn’t in all likelihood hear that, I know she would have loved every single

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9 minutes ago, Traf said:

I couldn't give a shit about what Keir said/did etc : he's not running the country.

Sticking up for a guy culpable in over 100k of deaths by saying someone else would have done worse isn't a good look. 

Who is sticking up for him?

Your politics might be in the way?

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11 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Who is sticking up for him?

Your politics might be in the way?

My politics?
I wouldn't trust any of them to run a bath.

You were the one who countered my criticiam of Boris by mentioning someone else who has no control/influence over the situation.

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This is by no means sticking up for Boris but other European countries Have seen a similar rise in deaths over the last 12 month compared to previous years, yet their Covid deaths are lower.  Are we still recording covid deaths differently to other countries? 

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11 minutes ago, royal white said:

This is by no means sticking up for Boris but other European countries Have seen a similar rise in deaths over the last 12 month compared to previous years, yet their Covid deaths are lower.  Are we still recording covid deaths differently to other countries? 

I suspect that however we record them, Boris and co. wouldn't actively seek to allow the number to be too high.

If anything, most scientific data suggests that the true figure is nearer 120,000.

It's too many. And now we have a years worth of hindsight, you have to say the dithering around lockdowns is the biggest contributing factor.

The population have behaved in the main, but we also have more than our fair share of utter fucking plankton wandering around denying everything, refusing to wear masks/shields and generally being cunts too.

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There's something rather murky about the argument with zeneca and the EU.

We may sneer and crow about being ahead, but the EU can make life just as difficult for us at a time when we are supposed to be building bridges.

Hooray.

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16 minutes ago, Spider said:

There's something rather murky about the argument with zeneca and the EU.

We may sneer and crow about being ahead, but the EU can make life just as difficult for us at a time when we are supposed to be building bridges.

Hooray.

They’re supposed to be our friends, funny way of showing it IF they stop Pfizer vaccines as they’re threatening.

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comical some on here

Boris and his merry men could literally pop round, give ya wives and kids a dry one, and you still wouldnt find fault

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3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

They’re supposed to be our friends, funny way of showing it IF they stop Pfizer vaccines as they’re threatening.

If the shoe was on the other foot, I would absolutely expect the UK to do the same and look after its own interests.

They are simply looking after number 1, a position you have consistently endorsed over the last few years.

Surely you aren't criticising the EU for putting the EU first?

You couldn't wait to point out their folly yesterday.

It is, of course, what it is.

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10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

They’re supposed to be our friends, funny way of showing it IF they stop Pfizer vaccines as they’re threatening.

UK: "We have a vaccine, it's all ours"

EU: "Can you send the bit we ordered?

UK: "NO"

UK: "Don't forget to send our order though. We are Britain."

EU: "Yeah, about that...."

 

Must be weird on Planet Mounts

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40 minutes ago, Spider said:

I suspect that however we record them, Boris and co. wouldn't actively seek to allow the number to be too high.

If anything, most scientific data suggests that the true figure is nearer 120,000.

It's too many. And now we have a years worth of hindsight, you have to say the dithering around lockdowns is the biggest contributing factor.

The population have behaved in the main, but we also have more than our fair share of utter fucking plankton wandering around denying everything, refusing to wear masks/shields and generally being cunts too.

Yes I’d go with most of that, lockdown was a big factor yet most other European countries who had stronger lockdowns are also seeing massive corona deaths. Obviously lockdowns through the majority of Europe Weren’t strong enough and lifted to early. I suspect the majority of European leaders (probably rightly so) thought there would be no chance of their people adhering to a  China style lockdown. Hence the shit storm we are in. 

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1 minute ago, royal white said:

Yes I’d go with most of that, lockdown was a big factor yet most other European countries who had stronger lockdowns are also seeing massive corona deaths. Obviously lockdowns through the majority of Europe Weren’t strong enough and lifted to early. I suspect the majority of European leaders (probably rightly so) thought there would be no chance of their people adhering to a  China style lockdown. Hence the shit storm we are in. 

We all know someone who reckons the whole thing is "horseshit" or they won't wear a mask ot think that common sense stops the virus from existing.

Multiply that across the country and you have a lot of people acting the cunt and invariably spreading it.

The government absolutely have my sympathy on that because we live in a country that doesn't just lock folk up for disagreeing.

In the end, I'll fuck it all off because I won't kill any of my elderly relatives. They're all dead anyway.

 

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3 hours ago, Casino said:

radio yesterday said johnson and johnson might not be far away

They expect it to go for emergency authorization here in the US sometime next week

Johnson & Johnson finishes trials for single-dose COVID vaccine | Connect the Dots (msn.com)

 

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45 minutes ago, royal white said:

Yes I’d go with most of that, lockdown was a big factor yet most other European countries who had stronger lockdowns are also seeing massive corona deaths. Obviously lockdowns through the majority of Europe Weren’t strong enough and lifted to early. I suspect the majority of European leaders (probably rightly so) thought there would be no chance of their people adhering to a  China style lockdown. Hence the shit storm we are in. 

Also we have to remember China was the source of this and seemingly within about 4’week they had it under control. Or so they said 🧐

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1 hour ago, royal white said:

This is by no means sticking up for Boris but other European countries Have seen a similar rise in deaths over the last 12 month compared to previous years, yet their Covid deaths are lower.  Are we still recording covid deaths differently to other countries? 

Yes we always have been. Scroll back about 800 pages and find out where I’ve said it about 10 times as folk trot out meaningless graphs comparing us and other nations. Apple and a egg in most cases is the comparison. 

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10 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yes we always have been. Scroll back about 800 pages and find out where I’ve said it about 10 times as folk trot out meaningless graphs comparing us and other nations. Apple and a egg in most cases is the comparison. 

A lot of those now calling for harder lockdowns were the first to call Trump a racist for blocking flights from China. 
 

Who’d be a leader hey 🤷🏻

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11 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yes we always have been. Scroll back about 800 pages and find out where I’ve said it about 10 times as folk trot out meaningless graphs comparing us and other nations. Apple and a egg in most cases is the comparison. 

Funnily enough, the Govt used to trot out those graphs all the time when our deaths were lower than Italy and Spain.

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