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2 minutes ago, Spider said:

It’s being sold at cost. So the reports back in 2020 said. Costs covered, a not for profit enterprise for the good of all mankind.

Fair play, I take that goes for all covid vaccines ?

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10 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Fair play, I take that goes for all covid vaccines ?

Dunno.

Id imagine the yanks will need to make a profit but the reality is that this should not be a cash cow

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2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Dunno.

Id imagine the yanks will need to make a profit but the reality is that this should not be a cash cow

Agreed, hopefully the UK will be favourably looked upon, something to be proud off.

Team UK

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21 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

...actually make sure those chinky cunts get fuck all.

They've already developed vaccines from Sinovac and Sinopharm, so they'd not be wanting ours anyway I wouldn't have thought

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1 minute ago, Sweep said:

They've already developed vaccines from Sinovac and Sinopharm, so they'd not be wanting ours anyway I wouldn't have thought

..and they didn't share?, Treasure City and China Garden can now fuck off, I will make my own salt n pepper chips 😁

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7 minutes ago, Sweep said:

They've already developed vaccines from Sinovac and Sinopharm, so they'd not be wanting ours anyway I wouldn't have thought

They were probably created at the same time they created Covid.

Theyll hold it back till their work is done.

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7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

They were probably created at the same time they created Covid.

Theyll hold it back till their work is done.

They've not created it very well then, as one of thems only around 60% efficient apparently

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3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Second doses are also recorded

You didnt get my point

We were achieving good numbers and continyed to add vaccine centres

But the numbers have dropoed

My guess is that we cant sustain the rates possible as if we do, there wont be enough for the boosters that we will need in a few weeks

 

This isnt itk as supply is currently as strong as its ever been in one bit of bolton

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I know I'm a simpleton but I'm curious about why we can't massively increase production. With the entire world needing vaccines there's going to be decent demand for a while yet

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2 minutes ago, wiggy said:

I know I'm a simpleton but I'm curious about why we can't massively increase production. With the entire world needing vaccines there's going to be decent demand for a while yet

Lack of raw material maybe, or purely lack of machines/equipment to produce the product. Probably a combination of both of both I'd have thought

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47 minutes ago, Casino said:

You didnt get my point

We were achieving good numbers and continyed to add vaccine centres

But the numbers have dropoed

My guess is that we cant sustain the rates possible as if we do, there wont be enough for the boosters that we will need in a few weeks

 

This isnt itk as supply is currently as strong as its ever been in one bit of bolton

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-every-uk-adult-could-be-vaccinated-by-mid-july-if-these-figures-are-anything-to-go-by-12188909
 

If you look at this story based on Sturgeons leaking vaccine numbers, it does seem we are following these numbers. So it seems planned. 

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42 minutes ago, wiggy said:

I know I'm a simpleton but I'm curious about why we can't massively increase production. With the entire world needing vaccines there's going to be decent demand for a while yet

Remember Van Tan said that vaccines are not yoghurt. Making sure we get the production right is more important than getting volume out with a risk it won't be right. Both Pfizer and AZ are making process changes to increase volumes. Once they are implemented I think we see another step change.

We are doing really well so far  

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35 minutes ago, Ani said:

Remember Van Tan said that vaccines are not yoghurt. Making sure we get the production right is more important than getting volume out with a risk it won't be right. Both Pfizer and AZ are making process changes to increase volumes. Once they are implemented I think we see another step change.

We are doing really well so far  

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7 hours ago, Sweep said:

Lack of raw material maybe, or purely lack of machines/equipment to produce the product. Probably a combination of both of both I'd have thought

A lot of thing can change when you try and upscale something, what was a very, very small thing in a small plant can become a major issue if the process is scaled up. Lets use temperature as an example, in a small plant say its as 0.1 degree maybe now issue, but say you make a plant 10 time the size that temp could be 1 degree or even more and therefore could effect the process, I don't know I'm just having a guess 

Ive worked on test rigs for stuff before and they work well, but when scaled up to a large production the wheels have fallen off

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9 hours ago, wiggy said:

I know I'm a simpleton but I'm curious about why we can't massively increase production. With the entire world needing vaccines there's going to be decent demand for a while yet

The monkeys at labs worldwide are now shooting salt.

They're all wanked out.

They currently have, to an ape, the listless jaded sexual appetite of a 60yr old colonel.

I read this on Ian 'Chopper' Brown's twatter feed...

Fuck me, he's not the best advert for a forty year weedsmoking habit is he?

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5 hours ago, royal white said:

A few of the COVID deniers with large followings have been getting triggered by this.

 

 

 

 

Numbers are being manipulated obviously. 
 

The wife has a WhatsApp group with some of the girls she grew up work and one of them is off the scale with conspiracies 

Ill update you with the latest one later 

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14 hours ago, royal white said:

Any death is tragic but I have zero sympathy for people like this 

aye, I mean some conspiracies do have some degree of merit, but how do you get to his age and sit there with what's been going on claiming "it's not real"?!

he found out the hard way that he's a fucking idiot

tough shit

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22 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Care to elaborate, or just opinion. 

Countries don't even define a case of covid in the same way.

Many countries aren't capable of undertaking an accurate excess deaths assessment- I posted a link a few days ago explaining it.

 

Simple, because our number of deaths over and above the average are also amongst the highest in the world. And that has nothing to do with how a COVID case is defined.

https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c-cbdf5b386938

Which of those countries, particularly the European ones, do you not think are capable of calculating excess deaths?

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3 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Simple, because our number of deaths over and above the average are also amongst the highest in the world. And that has nothing to do with how a COVID case is defined.

https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c-cbdf5b386938

Which of those countries, particularly the European ones, do you not think are capable of calculating excess deaths?

Spain have been dodgy with numbers

Russia, of course

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