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Just now, Zico said:

Why not wait till priority groups are done? They are priority for a reason 

Then give it it to teachers

Then open schools

THE priority groups are done

Lower priority groups to come

My estimate is that cases, hospitalisations and deaths will continue to plummet.

and that the opening up will be too cautious, but I think that the populous wants caution.

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2 minutes ago, Casino said:

They can't do the parents in a weekend

And most parents of school age kids aren't likely to be hospitalised, I dont think

The hospitalisations in under 50s isn't  much different than 50-69 - (it's a lot lower than the over 70s,) but the deaths are much lower - the hsopitals will be busy but much less deaths.

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24 minutes ago, Zico said:

The flaw in the plan 

Nothing should be relaxed till at least the first jab phase is complete 

And then only relaxed for those who have had it - schools, hospitality, non essentials, the lot

Those that don't have it for whatever reason should have to wait till everyone else has had two 

Aye nae bother 👍🏼
 

why don’t we keep kids off and allow those without kids to go about their daily lives as normal while you all sit in? Why should I be sat in so kids can to school?

see how it works both ways eh 

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2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If it’s a decision based on where and how virus spreads then it’s clear to me schools will spread the virus widely,  while restaurants & pubs are much safer, any bars flouting social distancing etc close them down and fine them. It’s a shambles. 

The science doesn't back up the claim.about schools I'm afraid. Universities, yes, but not schools. Which is why the unions has lost a bit of sway with the public.

I can't believe this but I'm behind the government on this. Its not a shambles, you just don't like it.

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3 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

The hospitalisations in under 50s isn't  much different than 50-69 - (it's a lot lower than the over 70s,) but the deaths are much lower - the hsopitals will be busy but much less deaths.

Exactly 

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6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

THE priority groups are done

Lower priority groups to come

My estimate is that cases, hospitalisations and deaths will continue to plummet.

and that the opening up will be too cautious, but I think that the populous wants caution.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-55586994

"there has been a steep rise in the numbers of people in their mid-40s to mid-60s becoming seriously ill with Covid and being admitted to intensive care units."

 

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1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

It is, Mounts, have a listen to the scientists on more or less. It's not something that will lead to a.spike. 

have a read of what sage think, if you can be arsed, its not a light read!

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/963381/S1102_Children_s_Task_and_Finish_Group_update_to_17th_December_2020_paper_on_children__schools_and_transmission.pdf 

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5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Aye nae bother 👍🏼
 

why don’t we keep kids off and allow those without kids to go about their daily lives as normal while you all sit in? Why should I be sat in so kids can to school?

see how it works both ways eh 

No 

Get the priority groups sorted, then start to relax

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2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

As I said 

Cases in the "lower" priority group have been going up this year

Sage estimate 30k more deaths or more

That's not what you said

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3 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Will do, happy to be proved completely wrong (it's a common occurrence) might do it tomorrow

 

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6 minutes ago, Zico said:

Cases in the "lower" priority group have been going up this year

Sage estimate 30k more deaths or more

That's not what you said

I didn’t mention numbers of deaths, but Whitty should be listened to on deaths.

When Boris said “more deaths”, I’m not even sure he meant “more”, rather “further”

Deaths aren’t stopping

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31 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Fair enough, my 13 year old had it and had a half day of a headache and sore legs for one day.

I have worse hangovers

That reads like your kid had the vaccine. Assume you mean virus ?? 

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2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

And, above all, time will tell

To be fair

I think you’ve said for a long time that there’d be no more massive spikes and time said otherwise. You’ve always held the view that restrictions don’t make any difference. Sweden was a go to example for a fair while...

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9 minutes ago, Zico said:

No 

Get the priority groups sorted, then start to relax

No you clearly said anyone who can’t have the vaccine should sit and wait around. So because I can’t have it I should put my life on hold while everyone else cracks on yes? 

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Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Will do, happy to be proved completely wrong (it's a common occurrence) might do it tomorrow

 

I don't think your defiantely wrong - the conclusion I'm drawing is - they don't know whats going to happen because the succes is based on how many vaccines they can get in us, the take up of the vaccines in younger age groups,  and exactly how well they work in middle aged, which I think is why they've given themselves 5 weeks - they're claiming that it takes that long to see a difference, which is bollocks, it takes that long to see the deaths, but they'll get the gist of whats happening after 2-3 weeks.

 

If they can get the vaccine numbers up by an extra million a week, it will make a massive difference long term.  

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I hate Boris but the job is impossible as a political decision. Half the people I know think too much too quick, other half complaining about the 5 week delays. 
Following the science is one approach but they do not have responsibility for the economy. 

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7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Will do, happy to be proved completely wrong (it's a common occurrence) might do it tomorrow

 

This thing had almost gone in August. Started to climb again in September, when the kids went back 

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3 minutes ago, Spider said:

To be fair

I think you’ve said for a long time that there’d be no more massive spikes and time said otherwise. You’ve always held the view that restrictions don’t make any difference. Sweden was a go to example for a fair while...

And?

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I’m no fuckin scientist!

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