Jump to content
Wanderers Ways - passion not fashion

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 41.6k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Escobarp

    3313

  • Spider

    2561

  • Tonge moor green jacket

    2509

  • boltondiver

    2255

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

That was one of the loveliest things to ever happen. Stood in my garden sobbing like a baby! Proud to work for the NHS 👏👏👏👏❤️

My uncle lost his battle to this in Royal Bolton this morning, so he will be one of today’s numbers.  last rites over the phone held by a nurse with no family there. made an exception yester

I’ve sat with my mum who is slipping away, literally breathing her last today. She idolises the Queen, and whilst she didn’t in all likelihood hear that, I know she would have loved every single

Posted Images

6 minutes ago, Ani said:

I hate Boris but the job is impossible as a political decision. Half the people I know think too much too quick, other half complaining about the 5 week delays. 
Following the science is one approach but they do not have responsibility for the economy. 

Aye, if it fucks up, its not on him

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

I didn’t mention numbers of deaths, but Whitty should be listened to on deaths.

When Boris said “more deaths”, I’m not even sure he meant “more”, rather “further”

Deaths are stopping

Well you did say they will plummet 

SAGE don't agree, see below

One thing this last year has taught me is not to get your hopes up 

So I'm not pinning my hopes on having a pint in April

There's still too many unknowns 

Which is why doing anything before anyone considered a priority has had one jab is asking for trouble

 

"Even in the best case scenario SPI-M estimates that ‘at least a further 30,000 Covid-19 deaths would occur under the new scenarios’ in the UK.

The SAGE minutes state: “These scenarios show an epidemic resurgence which results in a substantial number of hospital admissions and deaths (high confidence).

“There remains significant uncertainty about the scale and timing of such a resurgence.

“Key uncertainties include vaccine effectiveness (against infection as well as severe disease), waning immunity, the emergence of novel variants, the extent of any seasonal factors, and behavioural responses to any changes (the modelling assumes no waning of immunity, no novel variants other than B.1.1.7 and no change in adherence following vaccination).”

“Uncertainty is greater further into the future for all modelled scenarios, though this will reduce over time as more data are obtained on vaccine effectiveness.

“Given the level of uncertainty, decisions about changes to restrictions are best made based on epidemiological data rather than based on predetermined dates.”

SAGE said when all adults have been offered at least one dose of the vaccine ‘any further delay is not likely to have a significant impact on the scale of the subsequent resurgence’.

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

This thing had almost gone in August. Started to climb again in September, when the kids went back 

100% correct schools & unis are exactly where the spread is, have no doubt lockdown 4 coming and just because Boris promised schools would be back March 8th. 

Edited by Mounts Kipper
Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Is it a job requirement of a journalist to have a speech impediment?

There is an uproar when a jokey question gets asked in HOC but when a journalist asks is the PM a 'gloomster' that is ok 

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Zico said:

Well you did say they will plummet 

SAGE don't agree, see below

One thing this last year has taught me is not to get your hopes up 

So I'm not pinning my hopes on having a pint in April

There's still too many unknowns 

Which is why doing anything before anyone considered a priority has had one jab is asking for trouble

 

"Even in the best case scenario SPI-M estimates that ‘at least a further 30,000 Covid-19 deaths would occur under the new scenarios’ in the UK.

The SAGE minutes state: “These scenarios show an epidemic resurgence which results in a substantial number of hospital admissions and deaths (high confidence).

“There remains significant uncertainty about the scale and timing of such a resurgence.

“Key uncertainties include vaccine effectiveness (against infection as well as severe disease), waning immunity, the emergence of novel variants, the extent of any seasonal factors, and behavioural responses to any changes (the modelling assumes no waning of immunity, no novel variants other than B.1.1.7 and no change in adherence following vaccination).”

“Uncertainty is greater further into the future for all modelled scenarios, though this will reduce over time as more data are obtained on vaccine effectiveness.

“Given the level of uncertainty, decisions about changes to restrictions are best made based on epidemiological data rather than based on predetermined dates.”

SAGE said when all adults have been offered at least one dose of the vaccine ‘any further delay is not likely to have a significant impact on the scale of the subsequent resurgence’.

 

 

Ok, mate

I do get it, honest.

Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

No you clearly said anyone who can’t have the vaccine should sit and wait around. So because I can’t have it I should put my life on hold while everyone else cracks on yes? 

Can't or won't? 

If clinically proven exemptions are a thing, then fine

But people who refuse it because they just don't want it are the lowest priority for me 

They shouldn't be allowed to crack on putting themselves or others at risk

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Zico said:

Can't or won't? 

If clinically proven exemptions are a thing, then fine

But people who refuse it because they just don't want it are the lowest priority for me 

They shouldn't be allowed to crack on putting themselves or others at risk

That isn’t what you said. I can have it. But chances are I might well die. I’ve less chance of dying from covid so I will take my chance on that front. 
 

agree anyone who isn’t having it cos they are an anti vaccer or whatever can just fuck off. Pricks 
 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

This thing had almost gone in August. Started to climb again in September, when the kids went back 

I know, but with the data that does chime with a lot of other things going back. I'm totally not a scientist and really happy to be proven wrong. Although, all our efforts should be behind getting kids back to school before anything else.

Schools are a relatively safe environment, teaching is not a high risk profession as the data is saying.

I just think its not quite as simple as September + schools = spike. Our lives don't work like that, the data doesn't massively show that. Which is why the gvt are right with their stages.

Thank god they've stop thinking about tiers though.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Chris Whitty just explained the schools thing really well and passionately as a journalist had misquoted him on the subject previously. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Traf said:

Not yet, but fingers crossed.

People forget that us being allowed to travel doesn't mean we can travel. Lots of countries don't/won't want us in.

My Ashes trip is off, as Australia are 99% not re-opening the borders until 2022.

Any idea what Norway are doing 

Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Ani said:

Chris Whitty just explained the schools thing really well and passionately as a journalist had misquoted him on the subject previously. 

He's relying on Easter holiday to be a firebreak. I think he knows it’s a major major risk. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Site Supporter
1 hour ago, Mr Grey said:

 I did read somewhere that Whitty and Valence wanted a school return after Easter, which just rips Bojo's "we listen to the science" to shreds, Politicians across all parties do NOT listen.

Hopefully whitty put that one to bed for you. Journalist in not letting the truth stop a bollocks article shocker.

52 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Boris “all the evidence says schools are safe” lying bastard. 

The evidence says otherwise. Jenny Haries explained it several weeks ago.

15 minutes ago, Ani said:

Chris Whitty just explained the schools thing really well and passionately as a journalist had misquoted him on the subject previously. 

I hope he refuses any more comments to the cunt. Shit stirring like this erodes public confidence, should lock the fucker up for a few weeks.

Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

That isn’t what you said. I can have it. But chances are I might well die. I’ve less chance of dying from covid so I will take my chance on that front. 
 

agree anyone who isn’t having it cos they are an anti vaccer or whatever can just fuck off. Pricks 
 

 

Based on current numbers it's about a 0.0009% chance 

Your call though, obviously

What would happen if covid passports were introduced? 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Zico said:

Based on current numbers it's about a 0.0009% chance 

Your call though, obviously

What would happen if covid passports were introduced? 

I would get an exemption. I’ve nearly died from both vaccines I’ve had in my life. Pretty sure that renders me exempt and a much higher risk that 0.0009%. Given currently I’ve a 100% strike rate when it comes to being hospitalized by vaccinations. 
 

You would have it would you? 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Announcements


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.