Burndens Bogs Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, deane koontz said: Have we got a definitive list of essential/non essential work yet beside the obvious? I''m not taking the piss. Or is everybody just deciding for themselves? Maybe It's just me being a bit dense It doesn’t have to be essential work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Announcement coming on Wednesday with financial support for the self employed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: It doesn’t have to be essential work. Think I'll give up trying to understand the work stuff for now. I've clearly missed something somewhere down the line 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, wiggy said: Announcement coming on Wednesday with financial support for the self employed. Looks like this is what will be announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, deane koontz said: Think I'll give up trying to understand the work stuff for now. I've clearly missed something somewhere down the line 😂 This is what they classed as key workers last week Health and social care workers, including volunteers, social workers, and those working in the supply chain of medical goods Teaching and Nursery staff Justice system workers Religious staff, charity workers delivering key frontline services Those responsible for the management of the deceased Journalists and broadcatsers providing public service broadcasting Local and National Government administrative occupations essential to the effective delivery of the Covid19 response or delivering essential public services such as benefits Food production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery workers. Necessary goods production, processing, distribution sale and delivery workers (eg hygenic and veterinary medicne goods) Police and support staff MOD civilian, contractor and armed forces National crime agency staff Border security, prison, probation staff Transport workers including those who keep the air, water, road and rail passenger and freight systems operating Utilities, communication and financial services staff, including workers in banks, building societies, finance markets, oil, gas, water sectors, IT, data infrastructure, civil nuclear, chemicals, telecommunications (network, field engineering, call centre staff) Postal workers, Payments providers Waste disposal 999 and 111 staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 @Mr Grey Why have you changed your profile pic. The old one made me laugh every time i saw it. I'm upset now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: This is what they classed as key workers last week Health and social care workers, including volunteers, social workers, and those working in the supply chain of medical goods Teaching and Nursery staff Justice system workers Religious staff, charity workers delivering key frontline services Those responsible for the management of the deceased Journalists and broadcatsers providing public service broadcasting Local and National Government administrative occupations essential to the effective delivery of the Covid19 response or delivering essential public services such as benefits Food production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery workers. Necessary goods production, processing, distribution sale and delivery workers (eg hygenic and veterinary medicne goods) Police and support staff MOD civilian, contractor and armed forces National crime agency staff Border security, prison, probation staff Transport workers including those who keep the air, water, road and rail passenger and freight systems operating Utilities, communication and financial services staff, including workers in banks, building societies, finance markets, oil, gas, water sectors, IT, data infrastructure, civil nuclear, chemicals, telecommunications (network, field engineering, call centre staff) Postal workers, Payments providers Waste disposal 999 and 111 staff 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 The governments financial support has been excellent. And its really pleasing that they are sorting out the self employed, because they might be the toughest group to help but probably the most in need. I strongly suggest they close all non essential business today or tomorrow - the scenes of commuters show that if you don't force businesses to close they won't. And this is how this thing will spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, Moon boy said: As I see it, the Government’s latest announcement is vague, probably deliberate, there are grey areas, but we all know what they trying to achieve, if you can stay home stay home, if you go out ask yourself is it necessary, am I putting my life or someone else’s life at risk If YOU choose to go out and it ends badly don’t blame Boris, Gove or anybody else it’s up to you, the alternative is a total lockdown with Police, Military on the streets and punishment to follow I think everyone gets the jist of it. The problem is I think MOST who could comply were. But you only need see pics and videos of the tube today to see commuters packing in. Unless they close all non essential business down, some businesses will not close and force their workforce in. That's the biggest risk - highest rate of spread in China was public transport. IMO only essential workers should be going out now. We might only need that for 3 weeks to halt transmission but I think it will be needed. People with jobs need clarity - because you're asking someone to weigh up, do I go and get a pay check or stay of the train/bus/tube to comply with advice.....Sports Direct etc show that even with direct orders some will be dicks. But right now loads of places opening that aren't essential because people aren't being "forced". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Seems like most are carrying on as normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: The governments financial support has been excellent. And its really pleasing that they are sorting out the self employed, because they might be the toughest group to help but probably the most in need. I strongly suggest they close all non essential business today or tomorrow - the scenes of commuters show that if you don't force businesses to close they won't. And this is how this thing will spread. I agree, think it will happen sooner rather than later, they're continuing the drip feed strategy, letting us get used to new measures gradually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, peelyfeet said: I agree, think it will happen sooner rather than later, they're continuing the drip feed strategy, letting us get used to new measures gradually. I have a view on that I think its backwards. I get their behaviour scientists disagree - but if you hit everyone with a strict lockdown initially and then over time when you can gradually release restrictions people feel things getting slowly better - see China. Whereas the way they're doing this people feel everything is getting worse daily so more tempted to just "grab last bit of freedom" or panic buy or whatever. I get that they need to time it with the peak but for me at least these dripfeed measures are just prolonging the agony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Woman this morning on westhoughton facebook page.. "are the hairdressers open today?" Some people arent getting it still. I'm not sure what you can do besides start building emergency prisons for idiots and stick them in till it's over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I may be wrong but it appears as though our restrictions are less strict than other countries (Italy, Spain, France). So no-one should be surprised if we ultimately suffer worse than them in the coming weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 24, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) We've been told to stay away from today, even if we can't work from home. Edited March 24, 2020 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghana White said: Woman this morning on westhoughton facebook page.. "are the hairdressers open today?" Some people arent getting it still. I'm not sure what you can do besides start building emergency prisons for idiots and stick them in till it's over. Plenty of old folk were walking aimlessly around Market Street yesterday. Probably because Spoons was closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Contactless up to £45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted March 24, 2020 Author Members Share Posted March 24, 2020 People are idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 24, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, deane koontz said: Plenty of old folk were walking aimlessly around Market Street yesterday. Probably because Spoons was closed Did one of them have a bag of golf clubs on his shoulder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter Spider Posted March 24, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2020 Has anyone been down the Asda/Tesco today? I have 4 cans of ale to my name and that’s unacceptable. Do I need to take weapons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just now, 1969 said: That’s American what relevance is that to us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2980 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Spider said: Has anyone been down the Asda/Tesco today? I have 4 cans of ale to my name and that’s unacceptable. Do I need to take weapons? No, there will be plenty of weapons out panic buying stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted March 24, 2020 Author Members Share Posted March 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Spider said: Has anyone been down the Asda/Tesco today? I have 4 cans of ale to my name and that’s unacceptable. Do I need to take weapons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 58 minutes ago, wiggy said: Announcement coming on Wednesday with financial support for the self employed. speaking to one of my mates yesterday, he's a tree chopper downer (or tree surgeon as he'd have you believe) - anyway, he's quite legit, and generally puts everything through his books. He was saying some of the blokes he works with generally do "cash jobs" whenever they can.....they're now realising that they're pretty fucked with regards to what they can claim (as and when it gets cleared up), as they've been declaring minimal earnings for the last umpteen years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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