Not in Crawley Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Imo it’s not plausible. He doesn’t make the rules. That is clear. He clearly doesn’t make the rules. My brain works in this way. we can go round in circles about this or agree to disagree upto you That explains an awful lot. Easy semantic reasoning to back up a point I’d already decided on. Must be a joy to work alongside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Don’t you think we know when politicians are telling lies/mistruths/misinformation or fudging? Course we do, when it really matters and when the opportunity arises they’ll pay at the ballot box, you can then hope that the Labour Party get in power and don’t lie like they did in the gulf war(something that did matter) How many uk citizens died in the gulf war ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ani Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Dido seems to be involved now. I quite liked her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Correct. He doesn’t make the rules. That’s my point. Thanks for confirming 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peelyfeet Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Casino said: bozo shouldve sacked him hes making himself very weak carrying on this game Sometimes you have to cut your losses - even if he believes that Cummings is telling the truth, and if he thinks he didn't beak the rules, he's clearly causing a distraction, wasting precious time and weakening the message - the death rate has gone up today - higher than it was last Wednesday - thats what we should be talking about - why has it gone up - is it a blip, or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Way, way out of his depths, what a joke we have for a leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Does he actually read what’s in those red boxes? It’s not great this is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 27, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, peelyfeet said: Sometimes you have to cut your losses - even if he believes that Cummings is telling the truth, and if he thinks he didn't beak the rules, he's clearly causing a distraction, wasting precious time and weakening the message - the death rate has gone up today - higher than it was last Wednesday - thats what we should be talking about - why has it gone up - is it a blip, or something else? a cynic might think cummings has created the distraction deliberately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Sometimes you have to cut your losses - even if he believes that Cummings is telling the truth, and if he thinks he didn't beak the rules, he's clearly causing a distraction, wasting precious time and weakening the message - the death rate has gone up today - higher than it was last Wednesday - thats what we should be talking about - why has it gone up - is it a blip, or something else? On the figures what is the comparison mon-weds last week ? Bank holiday reporting could be the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Sometimes you have to cut your losses - even if he believes that Cummings is telling the truth, and if he thinks he didn't beak the rules, he's clearly causing a distraction, wasting precious time and weakening the message - the death rate has gone up today - higher than it was last Wednesday - thats what we should be talking about - why has it gone up - is it a blip, or something else? Exactly, that’s why it’s time to move on and concentrate on what is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Love it on Five Live - some folk think these are questions by reporters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, mickbrown said: So you’ve no problem with politicians bullshitting for 5 years, because they then get the chance to uber bullshit before us mugs vote for them again? Same for both parties, as the old punks used to say doesn’t matter who you vote for the government always gets in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Sometimes you have to cut your losses - even if he believes that Cummings is telling the truth, and if he thinks he didn't beak the rules, he's clearly causing a distraction, wasting precious time and weakening the message - the death rate has gone up today - higher than it was last Wednesday - thats what we should be talking about - why has it gone up - is it a blip, or something else? We should be talking about that, we've gone past Italy (even though that'll apparently never happen) and we're quickly catching Spain, which is a real worry. I noticed earlier that Sweden are zooming up the charts as well, and it was only a few weeks ago some in the press were saying how well they had handled things by not having a proper lockdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 27, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Imo it’s not plausible. He doesn’t make the rules. That is clear. He clearly doesn’t make the rules. My brain works in this way. we can go round in circles about this or agree to disagree upto you circles, agreements, I'm easy but, and don't take this the wrong way, it comes across (to me) like a pedant tory apologist (which you say you're not) to suggest he doesn't make the rules he was breaking he plays a huge part in the messaging and guidelines that are delivered, so he knew better than most (i.e. the rest of the population) what he could and couldn't do anyway leave it there if you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Perspective for you, Stephen Kinnock, Labour MP (not an advisor), apparently broke lockdown rules, the media didn't spend 5 minutes reporting about his incident. This has been going on 5 days, for what? because the press hate this guy and for what he has done or achieved or because he went for a drive in lockdown,(cue the 'it was more than a drive') does that really warrant 5 fucking days of shamolic shit media coverage, it doesn't in my book. But if you wanna keep banging on about it, i suppose your free to do so, but to me its all bullshit just like you said. Suppose I must have a lower tolerance to bullshit than you. Kinnock hasn’t had the machinery of Government kick in to bullshit for him. For a fucking advisor? At a fucking time like this? The whole thing is fucked. I said right at the start of this whole bag of shit that I feared we’d fuck it up. And haven’t we just? In fucking spades. Tin pot, third world country that we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, ZicoKelly said: circles, agreements, I'm easy but, and don't take this the wrong way, it comes across (to me) like a pedant tory apologist (which you say you're not) to suggest he doesn't make the rules he was breaking he plays a huge part in the messaging and guidelines that are delivered, so he knew better than most (i.e. the rest of the population) what he could and couldn't do anyway leave it there if you want I take things very literally. Annoys the fuck out of my missus. he doesn’t make the rules 😁. He’s is part of a group that advises them to the government for ratification? Anyway it’s not important. I just get fixated on incorrect stuff like this as you can see ive said he was wrong said he should go. Media are starting to boil my piss over it however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) This is the Kinnock story. He was pulled up over a picture he posted. He clarified he also dropped off supplies and that was it. Jenrick did similar but drove a lot further https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-stephen-kinnock-labour-neil-birthday-visit-police-warning-twitter-a9433281.html%3famp Edited May 27, 2020 by Ani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tombwfc Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Boris is on another level. You could've pulled someone in off the street and they'd been able to have a better go at giving a specific answer to any of these questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ani said: On the figures what is the comparison mon-weds last week ? Bank holiday reporting could be the issue. Numbers in hospital for Eng and Wales (brackets for NW) - It's been flat in the NW hospitals over last 13 days London and Care homes is down a lot over the same period, big drops in both of those areas. 15th 186 (31) 16th 181 (29) 17th 90 (18) 18th 122 (24) 19th 174 (35) 20th 166 (21) 21st 187 (45) 22nd 121 (23) 23rd 157 (23) 24th 147 (30) 25th 59 (8) 26th 116 (30) 27th 183 (44) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, Ani said: How many uk citizens died in the gulf war ? 179 soldiers did, plus thousands of poor Iraqis......and we know whose lies took us there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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