mickbrown Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Escobarp said: What for calling someone out who’s persistently criticized all and sundry for a prolonged period and now is doing the same thing herself? Have a day off you melt Me have a day off? You’re the one itching for an argument with some bird and her bloke. Chill out man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Escobarp said: What for calling someone out who’s persistently criticized all and sundry for a prolonged period and now is doing the same thing herself? Have a day off you melt Do not post her twitter details on here Got that? unless you feel you need to 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted June 7, 2020 Author Members Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) I’d love to fight for equal rights for all ethnicities but not in the middle of a highly contagious pandemic I might as well shit in a bag and slap a nurse in the face with it Edited June 7, 2020 by Rudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, kent_white said: Racism doesn't come into it. Those people at that protest are risking taking a virulent virus back into their own community. Knowingly. That's as bad as the cops in the US. Sad, but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted June 7, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, kent_white said: Racism doesn't come into it. Those people at that protest are risking taking a virulent virus back into their own community. Knowingly. That's as bad as the cops in the US. Not sure id put them in the same bracket as the cops but aye, these protestors are fucking idiots and no different to all them who couldn't wait to get down the beach or have a VE BBQ and conga Loads of have had enough of lockdown now and just looking for an excuse to flout it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Not sure id put them in the same bracket as the cops but aye, these protestors are fucking idiots and no different to all them who couldn't wait to get down the beach or have a VE BBQ and conga Loads of have had enough of lockdown now and just looking for an excuse to flout it And the most oft-quoted reasoning for Doing so IS....?????? (Spoiler: it’s Dominic Cummings) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 13 hours ago, mickbrown said: Which one of those are you though Paul? Bet you’re at least one of them Well of course Mick. If you don't share the liberal worldview you are beyond the pale and therefore condemned to being one of them. Whether you actually are or not is irrelevant. If you don't fully agree with such people you are an extremist. You must be tried by social media. The self appointed liberal thought police in action. It's called liberal intolerance and it is rife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Spider said: Do not post her twitter details on here Got that? unless you feel you need to 😊 You would need to scroll through a weeks worth of hardcore BLM stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spider said: And the most oft-quoted reasoning for Doing so IS....?????? (Spoiler: it’s Dominic Cummings) Has Cummings ran off with your Mrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Has Cummings ran off with your Mrs No such luck. but ignoring him getting away with it, given the effect it’s had on the biggest human crisis this country has faced since the 40’s, is piss poor. Next time you mention a historical decision having an influence on subsequent events, make sure to tag me. Think putting Elmander in midfield. Or Holden being assaulted by Evans. These things have knock on effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, paulhanley said: Well of course Mick. If you don't share the liberal worldview you are beyond the pale and therefore condemned to being one of them. Whether you actually are or not is irrelevant. If you don't fully agree with such people you are an extremist. You must be tried by social media. The self appointed liberal thought police in action. It's called liberal intolerance and it is rife. But Paul, surely you see that some racists, transphobes etc etc, use this ‘liberal intolerance’ as an excuse to propagate their shitty worldview? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Spider said: Next time you mention a historical decision having an influence on subsequent events, make sure to tag me. Think putting Elmander in midfield. Or Holden being assaulted by Evans. These things have knock on effects. Or Edwin and Philip choosing to pay Burnley for their manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: Or Edwin and Philip choosing to pay Burnley for their manager Or saying you have an oven ready brexit deal when <whisper it> you haven’t really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 hours ago, boltondiver said: Is communication all over the place ( as it seems) or is it allowed to be? Cummings in the background? I think the notion of Cummings being some kind of Dark Lord got put to bed when he didn't think anyone would care about him breaking lockdown and then took two days to say he drove 60 miles to test his eyes. Whatever people say, and whichever figures the government (and others) want to cherry pick, the virus is either going to start infecting more people again or it isn't. We'll find that out soon enough. But whatever happens the government are going to be blamed if it goes wrong, so they might as well be honest about what they actually want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, mickbrown said: But Paul, surely you see that some racists, transphobes etc etc, use this ‘liberal intolerance’ as an excuse to propagate their shitty worldview? But Mick. Surely you see that not everybody who chooses views that don't fall within the narrow confines of being liberal is a racist or a transphobe. The problem with liberals it that they won't join a debate and try to win it. Instead they try to shut down those with other opinions by branding them extreme. Censorious and sinister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 minute ago, paulhanley said: But Mick. Surely you see that not everybody who chooses views that don't fall within the narrow confines of being liberal is a racist or a transphobe. The problem with liberals it that they won't join a debate and try to win it. Instead they try to shut down those with other opinions by branding them extreme. Censorious and sinister. Pretty sure it is obvious what is racist or not? If someone uses the free speech argument to justify racism then they need calling out as racists, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: But whatever happens the government are going to be blamed if it goes wrong, so they might as well be honest about what they actually want. Very good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Pretty sure it is obvious what is racist or not? If someone uses the free speech argument to justify racism then they need calling out as racists, no? Quite. Calling out someone who is a racist as racist doesn’t make you a liberal, makes you a decent person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Pretty sure it is obvious what is racist or not? If someone uses the free speech argument to justify racism then they need calling out as racists, no? The 17.4m who voted for Brexit got branded as racist by people who'd never met 17.39m of them. If someone closes down free speech having pre-ordained what is acceptable and unacceptable, they are intolerant, no? You have to explore someone's views at length and in detail to determine whether they are racist. Not yer liberals - any sniff of divergance from their script and that's it - you're automatically racist, sexist, transphpobic etc. It is classic intolerance - all from people who believe themselves to be the most tolerant generation who ever lived on this planet of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, paulhanley said: The 17.4m who voted for Brexit got branded as racist by people who'd never met 17.39m of them. If someone closes down free speech having pre-ordained what is acceptable and unacceptable, they are intolerant, no? You have to explore someone's views at length and in detail to determine whether they are racist. Not yer liberals - any sniff of divergance from their script and that's it - you're automatically racist, sexist, transphpobic etc. It is classic intolerance - all from people who believe themselves to be the most tolerant generation who ever lived on this planet of ours. Mon’s reet tha knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I think it’s slightly wrong to say everyone who voted remain thought everyone who voted for Brexit was racist. To be honest, that seemed to be a view taken on by those who did vote for Brexit and just didn’t like it when people disagreed with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, paulhanley said: The 17.4m who voted for Brexit got branded as racist by people who'd never met 17.39m of them. If someone closes down free speech having pre-ordained what is acceptable and unacceptable, they are intolerant, no? You have to explore someone's views at length and in detail to determine whether they are racist. Not yer liberals - any sniff of divergance from their script and that's it - you're automatically racist, sexist, transphpobic etc. It is classic intolerance - all from people who believe themselves to be the most tolerant generation who ever lived on this planet of ours. What was the saying? Not everybody who voted Brexit was racist, but all racists voted for Brexit. Folk can say what they want, but equally can be called out on it if it’s bullshit Racists are racist. There aren’t degrees of racism. You do know that don’t you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Go to agree, it's everywhere, especially when you are travelling. You have to keep your opinions and mouth zipped in case some Liberal is in the vicinity. Go by train on an away day, very rarely passes without some incident. Like what opinions exactly? What are you going to say that a ‘liberal’ is going to pick you up on.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, paulhanley said: The 17.4m who voted for Brexit got branded as racist by people who'd never met 17.39m of them. If someone closes down free speech having pre-ordained what is acceptable and unacceptable, they are intolerant, no? You have to explore someone's views at length and in detail to determine whether they are racist. Not yer liberals - any sniff of divergance from their script and that's it - you're automatically racist, sexist, transphpobic etc. It is classic intolerance - all from people who believe themselves to be the most tolerant generation who ever lived on this planet of ours. Aren't you characterising all 'liberals' as a homogenous mass in the same way you are calling them out for? And what do you mean by 'liberals?' Liberal Democrats? Remain voters? Or the US usage that's creeping into our discourse - anyone that doesn't support the Republican Party (Conservatives over here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 56 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Not sure id put them in the same bracket as the cops but aye, these protestors are fucking idiots and no different to all them who couldn't wait to get down the beach or have a VE BBQ and conga Loads of have had enough of lockdown now and just looking for an excuse to flout it If one of them passes COVID onto a vulnerable person who then dies - then they're just as culpable in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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