Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Farrelli said: The government are just looking for more scapegoats. Aye. Perhaps they should just double the figures so you can moan some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Aye. Perhaps they should just double the figures so you can moan some more. Even if you accept theres an issue with the numbers, its not going to affect the vast majority Ie the first 5 or 6 weeks And anyway, its not the number of deaths that I knock them for, its the amateurish leadership, decision making, muddled announcements, defending Cummings and generally thinking they can take the plebs for mugs They've been utterly shit and if nobody had died, they'd still have been utterly shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweep said: I presume that you're taking the piss by saying they're doing OK Well, time will tell. But, with due respect, perhaps read a bit more deeply. the Swedish epidemiologists were always setting it up for the long term. They are still confident that they have the right thing in not locking down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, boltondiver said: Well, time will tell. But, with due respect, perhaps read a bit more deeply. the Swedish epidemiologists were always setting it up for the long term. They are still confident that they have the right thing in not locking down. have they gained anything? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/sweden-economy-coronavirus.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, Casino said: Even if you accept theres an issue with the numbers, its not going to affect the vast majority Ie the first 5 or 6 weeks And anyway, its not the number of deaths that I knock them for, its the amateurish leadership, decision making, muddled announcements, defending Cummings and generally thinking they can take the plebs for mugs They've been utterly shit and if nobody had died, they'd still have been utterly shit Absolutely bang on. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, Casino said: generally thinking they can take the plebs for mugs They can, and the plebs love it. "Team Boris" indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Not far from a full house on here already today. Must be a record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 The ONS did a report on the excess deaths in June and found it was highly likely that the vast, vast majority of them will have been from COVID. Test or no test. But really, if the Karol Sikora, Matt Le Tissier, KBF brigade don't get it at this point, they never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Highly likely may as well be “we think” “could be” “possibly is” “maybe”. Same weight of proof I think it’s highly likely Jeremy corbyn smashed abacus abbots back doors in. But again it means nowt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: have they gained anything? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/sweden-economy-coronavirus.html Even the guy who's idea it was says they could've done better https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/architect-of-sweden-coronavirus-strategy-admits-too-many-died-anders-tegnell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said: Even the guy who's idea it was says they could've done better https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/architect-of-sweden-coronavirus-strategy-admits-too-many-died-anders-tegnell So could any country other than those with no deaths. Mistakes happen and bad choices happen it’s about how we learn from them. Whether we have a government that are doing so and are thus learning as a country I’m not too sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Escobarp said: So could any country other than those with no deaths. Mistakes happen and bad choices happen it’s about how we learn from them. Whether we have a government that are doing so and are thus learning as a country I’m not too sure though. aye, it was more in response to the suggestion they were doing ok, because they were the poster boys of KBF minded folk not so long ago seems they're not doing ok, whether that be the economy or the death rate, based on the last two links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 54 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Highly likely may as well be “we think” “could be” “possibly is” “maybe”. Same weight of proof I think it’s highly likely Jeremy corbyn smashed abacus abbots back doors in. But again it means nowt They never do certainities in science and analysis, they let journos do that for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: Highly likely may as well be “we think” “could be” “possibly is” “maybe”. Same weight of proof I think it’s highly likely Jeremy corbyn smashed abacus abbots back doors in. But again it means nowt I'd probably put their analysis over an anonymous letter sent to a crank suing the government, but each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: What about the probability of Jezza smashing Abacus Abbots back doors in, any thoughts, likely, probably, definitely or highly unlikely but could have ? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Speaking of PALS at bolton general. My dad was in bolton general a couple of years back and I wouldnt have treated a dog the way he was, it was a disgrace made worse by the fact the ward he was on got gold status whilst he was there. The ward should have been shut down. I complained to PALS and the woman said you're right I send my family to the hospital in Preston!! I went back and the next woman in their was furious that had happened and very understanding thankfully. My mum was in over Christmas though and the AMU were superb, killing themselves whilst clearly understaffed, a and e were fantastic too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Local pub near me has face masks on entry and til your at your seat. If your going to the toilets or moving about the bar to go out for a fag or anything then facemasks required as well. that’s how it should be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Local pub near me has face masks on entry and til your at your seat. If your going to the toilets or moving about the bar to go out for a fag or anything then facemasks required as well. that’s how it should be done. Wouldn't fancy having a fag with a facemask on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 18, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, kent_white said: Wouldn't fancy having a fag with a facemask on! The masks are for a giant roll up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: The masks are for a giant roll up. Instead of a filter tip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, kent_white said: Wouldn't fancy having a fag with a facemask on! 😂 you know what I meant. It’s a great idea though and that would’ve made sense As part of the whole face mask debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Grassroots friendly games back from August and league September, lads buzzing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Grassroots friendly games back from August and league September, lads buzzing Saw that this morn, no futsal yet though. Not heard anything from the academy yet, usually back in sometime in July/early Aug Edited July 18, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 So it seems we are stopping reporting daily deaths as after 4 months the Govt have decided the numbers are misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ani said: So it seems we are stopping reporting daily deaths as after 4 months the Govt have decided the numbers are misleading. Was it not the media asking for them to be at the briefings in the first place? Seems to be my recollection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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