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7 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Strange phenomenon with excess deaths. Dropped below average for the UK now. However Scotland's figures are still higher than normal.

 

 

It's to be expected eventually. A lot of the Coronavirus victims would've been 'due' to die in any case over the next few months. So if the infection rate really does drop it would be reasonable to assume the mortality rate will go below the average. It's just not much of a result when you realise why...

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3 minutes ago, ProfessorWoland said:

It's to be expected eventually. A lot of the Coronavirus victims would've been 'due' to die in any case over the next few months. So if the infection rate really does drop it would be reasonable to assume the mortality rate will go below the average. It's just not much of a result when you realise why...

Aye, statistics an all that.

The other odd one, is that not all the excess deaths are being attributed to c-19. Around 54000 I think they said were, which leaves another 11000 or so non covid.

Non reported heart attacks, non treated cancer patients? Weird.

 

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17 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye, statistics an all that.

The other odd one, is that not all the excess deaths are being attributed to c-19. Around 54000 I think they said were, which leaves another 11000 or so non covid.

Non reported heart attacks, non treated cancer patients? Weird.

 

I remember one comment from an oncologist I think saying that they got x many new cancer detections a week and that had plummeted, same with heart issues. The inference was some would potentially be dying at home having not wanted to go the hospital until it was too late.

May take years to work out just what's gone on at the height of this

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18 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye, statistics an all that.

The other odd one, is that not all the excess deaths are being attributed to c-19. Around 54000 I think they said were, which leaves another 11000 or so non covid.

Non reported heart attacks, non treated cancer patients? Weird.

 

3 ways of measuring 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/coronavirus&link_location=live-reporting-story

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US looks superfucked.

Fauci just said he thinks they'll possibly surpass 100k new recorded  cases a day soon. Going off their hostorical death rate that will be over 3k deaths a day a few weeks later. 

A few docs reiterating that Leicester like outbreaks likely to happen in other areas with high % BAME  and multi generational households %.  

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Posted (edited)

Looks like we are playing the Leicester outbtreak well.

What caused it?

 

 

Edited by boltondiver

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10 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Tends to suggest that the true figure will never be known (accurately) which I would assume is reflected in nations all over the world.

Some of the big, less well developed places like India must have huge inaccuracies within their systems.

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5 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Looks like we are playing the Leicester outreak well.

What caused it?

 

 

Rebekah Vardy?

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3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Tends to suggest that the true figure will never be known (accurately) which I would assume is reflected in nations all over the world.

Some of the big, less well developed places like India must have huge inaccuracies within their systems.

Pakistan supposed to be rife, I bet we are as accurate with our figures as anyone else

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Just now, deane koontz said:

Rebekah Vardy?

Haha. She's a virus

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1 minute ago, peelyfeet said:

Pakistan supposed to be rife, I bet we are as accurate with our figures as anyone else

I agree.

Didn't Pakistan have an issue with a mass "fuck it off" at one point (holidays or something) which was likely to see a spike.

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6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Cultural differences?

Dunno

That might have made it more easily transmittable, but why now, in Leicester?

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6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Dunno

That might have made it more easily transmittable, but why now, in Leicester?

As peely pointed out, may well happen in other places with lots of family groups with older people in. Perhaps since lockdown released slightly, these groups become more vulnerable- bit like Italy was at one stage.

If the story of illegal textile manufacturing going on is true, then spread could be rapid, like meat processing plants elsewhere.

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1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

Dunno

That might have made it more easily transmittable, but why now, in Leicester?

Suggestion is, inbound flights from Pakistan has imported quite a few cases from pakistan and North India. East midlands airport is nearby, Leicester has a v high % of North Indian heritage population, many living in multi generation households. And it will be down to chance too. This is the suggestion. Might be a load of bollocks.

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So, if we are 'playing it well' its only cos we didn't 'play it well' soon enough?

Yet more infected folks been allowed to enter unchecked?

Eldest is flying in to UK on Sunday and as it stands, she's supposed to not come in to contact with any of us for a fortnight

It won't happen and how its expected to happen in a 2 or 3 bed terrace with 10 folk living there, fcuk knows

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Shut the borders! Pointless otherwise. 
All this so folk can get a summer holiday basically 

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36 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Looks like we are playing the Leicester outbtreak well.

What caused it?

 

 

A Tory MP in rural Leicestershire put it down to clothing sweatshops in the East of the city. They stayed open during lockdown to meet extra demand for clothes bought online. Put the blame on the mayor who comes accross as a bit of an arse.

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1 hour ago, Mannyroader said:

A Tory MP in rural Leicestershire put it down to clothing sweatshops in the East of the city. They stayed open during lockdown to meet extra demand for clothes bought online. Put the blame on the mayor who comes accross as a bit of an arse.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/30/some-leicester-factories-stayed-open-and-forced-staff-to-come-in?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1593551945

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9 hours ago, Casino said:

So, if we are 'playing it well' its only cos we didn't 'play it well' soon enough?

Yet more infected folks been allowed to enter unchecked?

Eldest is flying in to UK on Sunday and as it stands, she's supposed to not come in to contact with any of us for a fortnight

It won't happen and how its expected to happen in a 2 or 3 bed terrace with 10 folk living there, fcuk knows

Thinly veiled look at me and my big house in Bury 

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BBC breakfast, still not answering this question of ‘how many people are being tested?’

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9 hours ago, stevieb said:

Be Boris's fault. Not sure how but it will. 

Jonathan Ashworth, Labour front bencher has been on the TV this morning slagging off the Government, and he is the MP for Leicester East 🙄

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According to some news outlets the areas with the highest % of cases per population, which they assume will be most likley to be locked down in the future,  are as below;

Leicester

Barnsley

Bradford

Rochdale

Bedford

Blackburn

Tameside (ashton under lyne / hyde)

Oldham

Kirklees (Huddersfield)

Rotherham

Peterborough

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Kinell, wife's just read something on her phone about a cluster in South West Scotland!

Nicola is going to be getting twitchy just as a number off this board seem to be about to head north.

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