jules_darby Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 https://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/362/reader/reader.html?#!preferred/0/package/362/pub/362/page/16/article/84780 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 There are eminent experts for and against further restrictions, so to say that backing them is just following the accepted science is simply not true and it should be open for debate... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-too-much-or-not-enough-experts-fight-it-out-online-mf3p336vs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, jules_darby said: There are eminent experts for and against further restrictions, so to say that backing them is just following the accepted science is simply not true and it should be open for debate... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-too-much-or-not-enough-experts-fight-it-out-online-mf3p336vs History will tell us whether the Govt panicked/overreacted to a massively overdone projection in March. And then whether they repeated the mistake in September. I do understand that if there are choices, it would be natural to go with safety first, in such a screechy world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted September 23, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 hours ago, peelyfeet said: I'm surprised they arent telling folk more to get fitter, eat healthier, lose weight if obese, vit D. Not seen the govmt data behind their study yet. The pro vit D studies don't claim it reduce the chance of catching covid, just the length and severity of illness. They've had mini campaigns mentioning it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 23, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2020 It seems they’re sticking to the age old mantra of prevention being better than cure. And there isn’t a cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 9 hours ago, peelyfeet said: I gave up half way through. Its bollocks mate, honestly. It's poorly formed opinion written in an unscientific manner. Don't read stuff off there. You won't find any posts from me from pro lockdown websites, if they exist. Just use data, interpret it, or read proper medical journals, theres thousands of proper scientific papers published, on covid, that isn't one. Could you be a little less open-minded, Our Peely? 😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 23, 2020 Author Members Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: If we are told to follow the experts advice, which experts advice are we following 🙄 Facebook Mams innit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: If we are told to follow the experts advice, which experts advice are we following 🙄 Swedish ones, obv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Spider said: It seems they’re sticking to the age old mantra of prevention being better than cure. And there isn’t a cure. Bit late for that And I’m doing so causing harm to a whole of other folks. Enjoy do people keep forgetting that part?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 All about liability. Plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Good news, the 2 Bristols have teamed up https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/game-changing-coronavirus-breakthrough-discovered-4537472.amp?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&__twitter_impression=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 hours ago, peelyfeet said: I'm surprised they arent telling folk more to get fitter, eat healthier, lose weight if obese, vit D. Not seen the govmt data behind their study yet. The pro vit D studies don't claim it reduce the chance of catching covid, just the length and severity of illness. No, I know it doesn't claim to reduce the chance of infection, but I mention it because I think finding an effective treatment post-infection is probably the most likely way to get us back to normality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 hours ago, jules_darby said: Yes I have Did you read why I posted it? I didn’t claim that we should either What they are against, and I agree, is the further sanctions this week. Please see my original post Jules what are you arguing ? That we should crack on as we are ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, jules_darby said: Yes I have Did you read why I posted it? I didn’t claim that we should either What they are against, and I agree, is the further sanctions this week. Please see my original post The original post... "And a great number of mathematicians and virologists wrote to the govt in the past day to explain the flaws in their presented data and to say that community P2 testing is wrong at least 9/10 times. 90% most of those who’ve tested positive are almost certain to be negative. " Asssuming we're talking about the same letter (the only one posted in this thread since), it doesn't say any of that. Edited September 23, 2020 by Tombwfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, boltondiver said: Could you be a little less open-minded, Our Peely? 😷 The world's gone mad . Fucking lockdownsceptics.org Run by Toby Young, the esteemed impartial, open minded, scientific expert with zero political bias. Sheesh Laters, I'm not posting for a few days. Spent too much time doing it, and need to concentrate on getting a new job for a bit. Edited September 23, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: The world's gone mad . Fucking lockdownsceptics.org Run by Toby Young, the estermed impartial, open minded scientific expert with zero political bias. Sheesh Laters, I'm not posting for a few days. Spent too much time doing it, and need to concentrate on getting a new job for a bit. 🤗 Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Theres no way this came from one bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: Theres no way this came from one bat. Rudy pressurised early on to change the title of the thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: Theres no way this came from one bat. Don’t set me off down that rabbit hole again pal. Not on a Wednesday!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 23, 2020 Author Members Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Rudy pressurised early on to change the title of the thread? I did no such thing. Bloody gestapo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 23, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 hours ago, peelyfeet said: I gave up half way through. Its bollocks mate, honestly. It's poorly formed opinion written in an unscientific manner. Don't read stuff off there. You won't find any posts from me from pro lockdown websites, if they exist. Just use data, interpret it, or read proper medical journals, theres thousands of proper scientific papers published, on covid, that isn't one. That was noticeable early on- wasn't written in a scientific manner. Also went to pains to explain their own background. Glad you got that far to qualify my initial concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 23, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, peelyfeet said: The world's gone mad . Fucking lockdownsceptics.org Run by Toby Young, the esteemed impartial, open minded, scientific expert with zero political bias. Sheesh Laters, I'm not posting for a few days. Spent too much time doing it, and need to concentrate on getting a new job for a bit. Good luck. Anything in particular, or generally what can you do? Doesn't do any harm if we can keep our ears open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Good luck. Anything in particular, or generally what can you do? Doesn't do any harm if we can keep our ears open. Epidemiologist, I hear 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 23, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Epidemiologist, I hear 😅 He left that field once, wonder if he'd really fancy going back now? From current experience and observations, I'd recommend he get into arboriculture. Tree surgeons everywhere, busy as buggery. Must be coining it in. Oh, and the anticipated effects of ash dieback over the next few years is startling. Peely's a big lad, should be reet wielding a large chopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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