Mounts Kipper Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Tough call this but I think its a sensible call. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51283059 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Tough call this but I think its a sensible call. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51283059 Common sense prevails, nothing to see here for Doomsayers, some might say Boris is not as daft as first thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Moon boy said: Common sense prevails, nothing to see here for Doomsayers, some might say Boris is not as daft as first thought Nothing to see here is utter nonsense. The approach from the Government is actually better than I had hoped and limiting their rollout of the RAN is welcome news to me personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Winchester White said: Nothing to see here is utter nonsense. The approach from the Government is actually better than I had hoped and limiting their rollout of the RAN is welcome news to me personally. Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 It's good news, a tough call, as we don't really want to piss off either China or the US at the moment, especially as we'll shortly be looking to strike trade deals with both in the near future. A bit of compromise is what was needed, and it looks like that's what's happened. I'm not sure that's the end of it though, as it's a massive deal. Let's see what Trumpton and Jinping have to say about it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Sweep said: It's good news, a tough call, as we don't really want to piss off either China or the US at the moment, especially as we'll shortly be looking to strike trade deals with both in the near future. A bit of compromise is what was needed, and it looks like that's what's happened. I'm not sure that's the end of it though, as it's a massive deal. Let's see what Trumpton and Jinping have to say about it....... Hauwei have responded positively according to the BBC. The same news outlet yesterday said hauwei use a lot of American components (intel etc) which contradicts their statement that the US has banned it's companies from dealing the the Chinese corporation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Hauwei have responded positively according to the BBC. The same news outlet yesterday said hauwei use a lot of American components (intel etc) which contradicts their statement that the US has banned it's companies from dealing the the Chinese corporation. Not that I know a vast amount about it, but I thought there was a ban on Intel and Qualcomm supplying to Huawei - their products are still using these products, due to backlog orders, but at some point that will run out (unless the ban has been reversed) I'd have thought, certainly for handsets, losing either Intel or Qualcomm would be a major issue, they can be replaced using their own tech (Kirin 990?) - the big issue would be not dealing with Corning I'd have thought, as their technology is way above other offerings out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Sweep said: Not that I know a vast amount about it, but I thought there was a ban on Intel and Qualcomm supplying to Huawei - their products are still using these products, due to backlog orders, but at some point that will run out (unless the ban has been reversed) I'd have thought, certainly for handsets, losing either Intel or Qualcomm would be a major issue, they can be replaced using their own tech (Kirin 990?) - the big issue would be not dealing with Corning I'd have thought, as their technology is way above other offerings out there Cheers. That helps explain it a bit better. Frustrating when contradictory comments are made in essentially the same report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, Sweep said: Not that I know a vast amount about it, but I thought there was a ban on Intel and Qualcomm supplying to Huawei - their products are still using these products, due to backlog orders, but at some point that will run out (unless the ban has been reversed) I'd have thought, certainly for handsets, losing either Intel or Qualcomm would be a major issue, they can be replaced using their own tech (Kirin 990?) - the big issue would be not dealing with Corning I'd have thought, as their technology is way above other offerings out there Aye but Huawei like Samsung do have a chip manufacturing facility. Not that they can produce stuff to compare at the moment. Biggest issue here is the actual network, not UE's. The limit of 35% of the RAN is significantly less than what I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I can't believe the Chinese have all this technology, be inventing gunpowder next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 I know absolutely fuck all about this kind of technology. How is the Chinese spying on us any different than the yanks or the Russians? If you don’t like it, climb up a lamppost with a bin lid and build your own 5G network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 It’s nice to see Johnson making a call based on our needs and not towing Trumps line as many thought he might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 We should put a team on university challenge. We have experts on literally every subject posting on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Spider said: I know absolutely fuck all about this kind of technology. How is the Chinese spying on us any different than the yanks or the Russians? If you don’t like it, climb up a lamppost with a bin lid and build your own 5G network. What kind of bin lid would you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 28, 2020 Members Share Posted January 28, 2020 Will 5g tell me if that’s Lindsay Lohan taking it up the shitter in that video that’s doing the rounds ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Moon boy said: What kind of bin lid would you need? Surely would have to be one of those metal ones you don’t see any more, used for cinders The round thick rubber type ones could maybe be used with a lining of foil Totally discount wheelie bin lid as they are square. BsB proved they don’t work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Spider said: We should put a team on university challenge. We have experts on literally every subject posting on here. What would your study/specialist subject be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: What would your study/specialist subject be? Blackadder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s nice to see Johnson making a call based on our needs and not towing Trumps line as many thought he might. I agree, the Republican's are fucking furious though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Winchester White said: I agree, the Republican's are fucking furious though. Fuck them. Wonder if the US would pay for us to replace all our current infrastructure that is hauwei manufactured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 28, 2020 Members Share Posted January 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Winchester White said: I agree, the Republican's are fucking furious though. When are they not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted January 28, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Fuck them. Wonder if the US would pay for us to replace all our current infrastructure that is hauwei manufactured? Aye. The problem came about well over a decade ago when BT was approached by Huawei to install some kit for free. BT loved it because it was free then very cheap and all the other vendors took them to court over literally 1000's and 1000's of copyright breaches. Didn't matter, Huawei paid out to Ericsson, Nokia, Alcatel, etc without fuss, they had made their way into the UK (and subsequently Europe). Only a matter of time before they took on the mobile markets across the world. Again paying millions for copying everything from code to hardware to patents the lot. They are the largest telecom equipment manufacturer in the world, all based on government money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Sweep said: It's good news, a tough call, as we don't really want to piss off either China or the US at the moment, especially as we'll shortly be looking to strike trade deals with both in the near future. A bit of compromise is what was needed, and it looks like that's what's happened. I'm not sure that's the end of it though, as it's a massive deal. Let's see what Trumpton and Jinping have to say about it....... I don’t think a trade deal with China is on the table anytime soon, not according to Liz Truss anyway The American trade deal is the only viable one of any decent size in the short / medium term With this news and the tax on American .Com’s that looks further away than it was a month ago George Osbourne was talking about it on the today programme the other day... Former UK chancellor, George Osborne, told the BBC that he thought the government would be wary of provoking the US over the new tax. "It will be a very brave British government that walks into a trade war with the United States at the very moment when centrepiece of its economic policy is to strike a trade deal with the United States," he told the Today Programme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Morizio said: Surely would have to be one of those metal ones you don’t see any more, used for cinders The round thick rubber type ones could maybe be used with a lining of foil Totally discount wheelie bin lid as they are square. BsB proved they don’t work. Ahh cinders, round top bin lorries, health and safety hadn’t been invented and bin men had to lift the bin to shoulder height to tip the cinders in the bin waggon, wind permitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 29, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Winchester White said: Aye. The problem came about well over a decade ago when BT was approached by Huawei to install some kit for free. BT loved it because it was free then very cheap and all the other vendors took them to court over literally 1000's and 1000's of copyright breaches. Didn't matter, Huawei paid out to Ericsson, Nokia, Alcatel, etc without fuss, they had made their way into the UK (and subsequently Europe). Only a matter of time before they took on the mobile markets across the world. Again paying millions for copying everything from code to hardware to patents the lot. They are the largest telecom equipment manufacturer in the world, all based on government money. They've got massive form for this. Not just telecom type stuff neither. They don't play by the rules. I can understand going down this route initially, however I'd like to see us phase out their stuff and give it increasingly to other legitimate companies. So what if it costs more ultimately. If china does effectively squeeze out its competitors, then it would be in a position to hike up prices anyhow. Cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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