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Reversing some of the Beeching cuts


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23 hours ago, paulhanley said:

They need to put some serious weight behind this. I'd scrap HS2 and plough all the money allocated in to this.

 

it sounds a nice idea, but if anybody thinks this Conservative government are going to axe HS2 and plough the money into giving Leigh a train station, then I'd suggest they might be a bit mad.

Rightly or wrongly, I'd expect HS2 to still go ahead (despite spiraling costs, even before they've laid a single bit of track) and lip service given to reversing the Beeching cuts, with maybe one or two provincial lines re-opened across the full length and breadth of the country

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13 minutes ago, Sweep said:

it sounds a nice idea, but if anybody thinks this Conservative government are going to axe HS2 and plough the money into giving Leigh a train station, then I'd suggest they might be a bit mad.

Rightly or wrongly, I'd expect HS2 to still go ahead (despite spiraling costs, even before they've laid a single bit of track) and lip service given to reversing the Beeching cuts, with maybe one or two provincial lines re-opened across the full length and breadth of the country

Think they'll go ahead with the section to Birmingham as too much work has gone on around Euston just to scrap it, including demolishing that decent pub whose name escapes me 

Apparently they were using our of date maps to plan the route and hadn't realised housing had been built on it. You'd be seriously pissed off if you had your house compulsory purchased then they don't build it 

Has any major government programme ever been delivered on budget? 

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6 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Think they'll go ahead with the section to Birmingham as too much work has gone on around Euston just to scrap it, including demolishing that decent pub whose name escapes me 

Apparently they were using our of date maps to plan the route and hadn't realised housing had been built on it. You'd be seriously pissed off if you had your house compulsory purchased then they don't build it 

Has any major government programme ever been delivered on budget? 

Doubt it!

I agree re the first stretch. Pretty sure they'll go ahead.

Iirc John Bishop had his mansion compulsorily purchased.

 

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37 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Think they'll go ahead with the section to Birmingham as too much work has gone on around Euston just to scrap it, including demolishing that decent pub whose name escapes me 

Apparently they were using our of date maps to plan the route and hadn't realised housing had been built on it. You'd be seriously pissed off if you had your house compulsory purchased then they don't build it 

Has any major government programme ever been delivered on budget? 

Bree Louise was the pub.

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Tony livesey was on 5 last night

He lives east lancs I think

Says there's a line near him has long been talked of being opened up

15 miles

Estimated cost to sort it

Only 350 million quid

500 million quid is just a joke

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1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

ELR line?

 

Only the stretch from Bury to Rawtenstall could be reopened, the stretch to Bacup has Bocholt Way on the old track bed, plus loads of industrial units built on it.

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1 minute ago, Boo said:

Only the stretch from Bury to Rawtenstall could be reopened, the stretch to Bacup has Bocholt Way on the old track bed, plus loads of industrial units built on it.

If you know the area

Just out of rawtenstall, road to bacup, have they been re opening the tunnel

Seen stuff going on but not sure what?

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4 minutes ago, Casino said:

If you know the area

Just out of rawtenstall, road to bacup, have they been re opening the tunnel

Seen stuff going on but not sure what?

Yes, been reopened as a cycle track, I think that the other glen tunnel may be opened up again in the future.

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They’ve been on about it near me for donkeys years. At the end of my road there’s the old level crossing which is now closed and the old signal box house thing is a converted house. Next door is the old milk station which is also a house. There’s £400k minimum in compulsory purchase alone right there and that’s just 20 yards of the track. 

Thornton station behind my local has been kept nice as some train society geeks have kept it open in some vein hope of running steam trains on there, but they’d have to build a new station there, as well as proper station in fleetwood. Then there’s the trains to run on em. 

The cost would be absolutely absurd and for what purpose? To take people from poulton to fleetwood? It’s £6 in a taxi or £2 on a bus for anyone desperate enough to actually want to go to the big shit hole. 

It took em 5 years to electrify Preston to Manchester lines and they still haven’t bought proper trains to run on em. So fuck knows how long it’d take to electrify a train track that’s been redundant for 50 years. 

Is it really worth the hassle to ferry a few folk 6 miles down the road?

 

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7 minutes ago, Sweep said:

It is all a bit farcical really I don't think anybody sensible actually thinks any of these tracks/lines are going to be reopened. The government will give it a bit of lip service, then decide to do nothing, as per usual.

Wasn’t the 500 million for the rail network in the Tory manifesto? If it was I’m thinking they’ll spend it or risk be held to account. 

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Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

Wasn’t the 500 million for the rail network in the Tory manifesto? If it was I’m thinking they’ll spend it or risk be held to account. 

The current active network needs much more than that spending on it so they will meet the pledge no probs 

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2 hours ago, gonzo said:

They’ve been on about it near me for donkeys years. At the end of my road there’s the old level crossing which is now closed and the old signal box house thing is a converted house. Next door is the old milk station which is also a house. There’s £400k minimum in compulsory purchase alone right there and that’s just 20 yards of the track. 

Thornton station behind my local has been kept nice as some train society geeks have kept it open in some vein hope of running steam trains on there, but they’d have to build a new station there, as well as proper station in fleetwood. Then there’s the trains to run on em. 

The cost would be absolutely absurd and for what purpose? To take people from poulton to fleetwood? It’s £6 in a taxi or £2 on a bus for anyone desperate enough to actually want to go to the big shit hole. 

It took em 5 years to electrify Preston to Manchester lines and they still haven’t bought proper trains to run on em. So fuck knows how long it’d take to electrify a train track that’s been redundant for 50 years. 

Is it really worth the hassle to ferry a few folk 6 miles down the road?

 

Brand new trams run between B/Pool and Fleetwood, somebody getting a back hander for a feasibility study to give the locals the impression the Tories are doing a good job and in reality, it's a no brainer.

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15 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Wasn’t the 500 million for the rail network in the Tory manifesto? If it was I’m thinking they’ll spend it or risk be held to account. 

I'm not sure. As we know though, £500M will get about 2 miles of track, so they can commit that money, but it won't really do anything

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