Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted February 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, hughmungus said: And wasn’t it Neal who signed McAteer and gave Stubbs his debut, which for many was the start of some of the best years as a fan. Yes, I think so. Neal had an eye for a player, would be a decent scout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 16, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 16, 2020 I think he signed lee and definitely walker New manager came in and signed up cheap players he knew So its not something exclusive to hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Neal was appointed in Dec 85 and took the club to the Freight Rover Final in 1986 losing it 3-0. There was a bit of spending money from the cup run which was spent on Steve Elliott and Mike Salmon.They weren't good signings and we were relegated in 1987. At this point eighteen months into Neal's tenure he wasn't a popular man to put it mildly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 16, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 16, 2020 Rioch was getting serious shit at the preston and chester away games Id have sacked allardyce at walsall, new years day Then in the prem, think it was a monday on sky v sunderland, he was getting dogs abuse Not for a minute am i suggesting hill is half as good as them, but giving managers 3 months is stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 16, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: Neal was appointed in Dec 85 and took the club to the Freight Rover Final in 1986 losing it 3-0. There was a bit of spending money from the cup run which was spent on Steve Elliott and Mike Salmon.They weren't good signings and we were relegated in 1987. At this point eighteen months into Neal's tenure he wasn't a popular man to put it mildly Mike salmon Now theres a good example of a bolton keeper who couldnt handle the boo boys He wasnt shit but he was targetted He was so shit, we were in 3 and 4 and he was playing in the top league for charlton Matthews needs to keep his head up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Casino said: Mike salmon Now theres a good example of a bolton keeper who couldnt handle the boo boys He wasnt shit but he was targetted He was so shit, we were in 3 and 4 and he was playing in the top league for charlton Matthews needs to keep his head up I remember him saving a last minute penalty at Walsall that season after we'd surrendered a 3-1 lead but Neal brought Felgate in towards the end of the season.Elliott had done well for Walsall but was slow and a poor finisher for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, Casino said: No 18 months Dec 85 til summer 87 Fair enough- it was a long time ago! He still managed to rebuild and put a more professional ethos into the place. As has been said, brought in good players. For me, KH is taking us down the opposite route. I'd be more forgiving if he wasn't full of bullshit during interviews; but gave a more measured assessment of the issues and a semblance of a plan for the short to medium term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Casino said: Mike salmon Now theres a good example of a bolton keeper who couldnt handle the boo boys He wasnt shit but he was targetted He was so shit, we were in 3 and 4 and he was playing in the top league for charlton Matthews needs to keep his head up Aye Salmon pasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 16, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Fair enough- it was a long time ago! He still managed to rebuild and put a more professional ethos into the place. As has been said, brought in good players. For me, KH is taking us down the opposite route. I'd be more forgiving if he wasn't full of bullshit during interviews; but gave a more measured assessment of the issues and a semblance of a plan for the short to medium term. Ok Agree he needs to stfu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Fair enough- it was a long time ago! He still managed to rebuild and put a more professional ethos into the place. As has been said, brought in good players. For me, KH is taking us down the opposite route. I'd be more forgiving if he wasn't full of bullshit during interviews; but gave a more measured assessment of the issues and a semblance of a plan for the short to medium term. One thing that must be remembered is when clubs turn to shit it takes a long time turn them around, that was certainly the case with Phil Neal, now if FV think Hills the right man to turn it round then we will just have to grin and bear it. Edited February 16, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 hours ago, hughmungus said: And wasn’t it Neal who signed McAteer and gave Stubbs his debut, which for many was the start of some of the best years as a fan. Didn’t he sign Andy Walker as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 20 hours ago, ianofcleveleys said: Been some depressing afternoons and evenings at the Unibol in the last few seasons but that was one of the very worst. 1st half wasn't bad, some decent passing and movement, couple of good efforts from Hamilton, and going in 0-0 would have set 2nd half up in a much different way. Second half, they hadn't threatened, we were just starting to look promising then shot ourselves in the foot again. That was in the 62nd minute, over 30 from the end, our clueless, shapeless, half arsed efforts from then on at getting back into were a disgrace. Not a single chance created or any concerning moments for their keeper or defence, despite them playing into the teeth of the wind. Far too many of those who'd looked decent first half completely disappeared, there was zero width, zero quality, zero attempts. Absolutely mind numbing dross. To be fair you started off saying it was one of the very worst, then said the 1st half wasnt bad. That immediately means there's at least a dozen worse games in the last 3 seasons. If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating I'd be happy to list 12 games that were worse than yesterday, I wouldn t even have to think about them, they are etched in my mind unfortunately. I honestly think yesterday felt worse because of the weather, and that's not to pretend it was good because the 2nd half was terrible. But we were terrible for the last hour, which is half an hour better than many games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: To be fair you started off saying it was one of the very worst, then said the 1st half wasnt bad. That immediately means there's at least a dozen worse games in the last 3 seasons. If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating I'd be happy to list 12 games that were worse than yesterday, I wouldn t even have to think about them, they are etched in my mind unfortunately. I honestly think yesterday felt worse because of the weather, and that's not to pretend it was good because the 2nd half was terrible. But we were terrible for the last hour, which is half an hour better than many games. We were outplayed by Wycombe. Not some big spending mad championship bastards. Wycombe. Anyone who pretends it isn’t plumbing the depths right now is kidding themselves. It feels proper 1980’s hell. Only plus is we still survive and will rise again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Casino said: Rioch was getting serious shit at the preston and chester away games Id have sacked allardyce at walsall, new years day Then in the prem, think it was a monday on sky v sunderland, he was getting dogs abuse Not for a minute am i suggesting hill is half as good as them, but giving managers 3 months is stupid Aye, at Chester losing 0-2 under Rioch at half time at the new Deva Stadium, came back to draw 2-2. 18th in the league, a fan boycott the following game and an unbeaten run what saw us getting promoted along with beating Liverpool and Wolves away in the FA Cup in the same season. Mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Doherty Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Hello all, Chester FC supporter here. My team didn’t have a game yesterday so I went on a groundhop to your game as I had never visited the University Of Bolton Stadium before. I have compiled a match vlog which shows all of the goals plus much more, so feel free to watch if you wish: Best of luck to you for the rest of the season. Thanks, Rio Doherty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: To be fair you started off saying it was one of the very worst, then said the 1st half wasnt bad. That immediately means there's at least a dozen worse games in the last 3 seasons. If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating I'd be happy to list 12 games that were worse than yesterday, I wouldn t even have to think about them, they are etched in my mind unfortunately. I honestly think yesterday felt worse because of the weather, and that's not to pretend it was good because the 2nd half was terrible. But we were terrible for the last hour, which is half an hour better than many games. The weather had bugger all to do with it, I've been on there on dozens of colder, wetter, windier days than that thanks. It was one of the very worst, in my opinion of course, because of the manner of the goals conceded, the timing of them, and the dismal, witless surrender in the second half. All that, and the fact that it's only February and it feeling like another long, slow death sent me home as fed up as I've been for a long time, and I go back to the last time we tumbled into League 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Ghana White said: Had nothing going forward yesterday. I feel sorry for Matthews hes getting loads of grief and the defence didnt win a header from a cross all day, the organisation in defence is terrible, what are they doing in training?? They offer nothing in attack, this should be treated as the longest preseason ever building for next year but I can't see any progress.. Hill comes across as a typical boltonian United fan arrogant and clueless with a complete lack of self awareness. That would be ideal, but you just know we'll still be finalising the squad in the last 2 days of August. Thanks to the transfer embargo, we get the players that haven't managed to get fixed up on better contracts elsewhere, or that start the season elsewhere and realise they aren't going to get a game (not unlike the 9 signings we made at the end of August). I'm confident we'll get some half decent players for Div 2 by 1st September, but I expect it to be a slow start to the season, with no real pre-season as a squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: We were outplayed by Wycombe. Not some big spending mad championship bastards. Wycombe. Anyone who pretends it isn’t plumbing the depths right now is kidding themselves. It feels proper 1980’s hell. Only plus is we still survive and will rise again. Wycombe may be a small club but they are a better team than the defeats we had 2 years ago to Swindon, Chesterfield, Oldham, Charlton (I forget which of those were 10 men). I'd say if you thought we better in those games than we were yesterday you're kidding yourself. But I get that you're talking about the situation generally rather than yesterday's game, which is what I was responding to. I've seen far worse than yesterday, but of course the current situation is the worst ever, that's not really news and isnt really effected by losing 2-0 to a team likely to be promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ands1 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 hours ago, boltondiver said: Didn’t he sign Andy Walker as well? Yes he did, initially on loan, Phil Neal had to hound the board for the £110k or was it £150k transfer fee, big big money for Bolton back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted February 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ands1 said: Yes he did, initially on loan, Phil Neal had to hound the board for the £110k or was it £150k transfer fee, big big money for Bolton back then. It’s big money now for us. Full circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 The likes of us getting the Holy Trinity back in 92/93 was a dream after our poor start, i hope god look's down on us next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Our esteemed journalists match report is pretty much on the money for once. Not super critical but asking the right questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted February 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Take Hunt Off said: Our esteemed journalists match report is pretty much on the money for once. Not super critical but asking the right questions. Seems ok to me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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