Moderators Casino Posted April 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Traf said: There won't be an October half term this year, according to a couple of headteachers I know. There's a proposal to re-arrange the calendar to get the kids in school more to make up for the current "time off" I hope theyre consulting with the NUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Casino said: I hope theyre consulting with the NUT I think they're not at the stage where they've a viable proposal to put to the union yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Traf said: I think they're not at the stage where they've a viable proposal to put to the union yet. I wasnt being totally serious But, they will kick off Selfish twats Edit not teachers. Union officials Edited April 9, 2020 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Casino said: I wasnt being totally serious But, they will kick off Selfish twats Edit not teachers. Union officials Serious point or not, any proposal that involves teachers doing more days will be hard to get passed by the unions. NUT will point to the fact that some teachers are still in schools now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 9, 2020 And they need to find a way of rewarding thise teachers at the end of all this Troopers I know somebody who will do some temp contracts for em next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, ErnestTurnip said: Did I read summat about the working time directives being changed so that holidays can be carried over into the next 2 years to potentially help with this? Just seen that 58 minutes ago, Traf said: There won't be an October half term this year, according to a couple of headteachers I know. There's a proposal to re-arrange the calendar to get the kids in school more to make up for the current "time off" Someone did mention this few weeks back but didn’t take much notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Missus was telling me last night the Dad of one of yoof's classmates, Polish bloke, was sent home from his warehouse job with Covid-19 symptoms and told to stay away fro 2 weeks, during which time he'd get SSP. A few days later they furloughed him and are now paying him 80% of SSP. He's queried this and was told to stop being a trouble-maker. Sounds to me like his boss is ripping off the poor cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Was asked if I’d consider furlough but I declined even though he’d top my wage up, my customers won’t stop messaging or ringing me and where would I stand legally if I continued speaking and emailing customers and suppliers, owner said shouldn’t be a problem, I declined as I don’t feel that’s what the schemes meant for, asked him to continue to pay me to which he agreed.... for now. Edited April 9, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, DazBob said: Missus was telling me last night the Dad of one of yoof's classmates, Polish bloke, was sent home from his warehouse job with Covid-19 symptoms and told to stay away fro 2 weeks, during which time he'd get SSP. A few days later they furloughed him and are now paying him 80% of SSP. He's queried this and was told to stop being a trouble-maker. Sounds to me like his boss is ripping off the poor cunt. He definitely needs to pursue that. Perhaps he could use those 'selfish twats' in the union if he has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, DazBob said: Missus was telling me last night the Dad of one of yoof's classmates, Polish bloke, was sent home from his warehouse job with Covid-19 symptoms and told to stay away fro 2 weeks, during which time he'd get SSP. A few days later they furloughed him and are now paying him 80% of SSP. He's queried this and was told to stop being a trouble-maker. Sounds to me like his boss is ripping off the poor cunt. Mugging him off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: He definitely needs to pursue that. Perhaps he could use those 'selfish twats' in the union if he has one. Indeed. Once over it, his SSP will stop as he is fit for work, so should go back to 80% of salary I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 9, 2020 Some of our lot are on NMW The increase hasn't been applied As it's based on earnings in February So, he shouldn't be getting 80 of SSP Its either 80 of full pay or SSP Dunno what he can do about it though, rock and hard place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Suppose he could grass his employer up, make them lose all the 80% they are claiming for all their wages and get a job somewhere else while his current employer ends up shutting down and has to lay everyone off. But that might be a bit drastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Going to be some proper cnuts taking the piss out of this furlough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QFPants Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, ErnestTurnip said: Did I read summat about the working time directives being changed so that holidays can be carried over into the next 2 years to potentially help with this? Yes but only statutory holiday entitlement I think. Might affect some of the high flyers on here that get loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, Casino said: Some of our lot are on NMW The increase hasn't been applied As it's based on earnings in February So, he shouldn't be getting 80 of SSP Its either 80 of full pay or SSP Dunno what he can do about it though, rock and hard place Aye, his boss will be claiming 80% of his wages back from the government and paying the poor bloke about £60 per week ... and pocketing the rest. Sly cunt. The Pole is clearly being bullied to keep quiet and is worried he'll simply be fired if he continues to be a "trouble maker" by questioning it. Missus has already messaged him telling him he's either entitled to full SSP or 80% of his normal wage. Whether he questions his boss again is up to him, but my guess is he'll do nothing due to the fear of losing his job. Wouldn't surprise me if this is happening around the country in low paid jobs where unscrupulous bosses are taking the piss out of those who don't understand their rights, aren't bright enough or are too scared to question it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 9, 2020 Which is one reason you had to be employed by Feb 28 to qualify Could you imagine the abuse we would've seen with firms recruiting folk to get the 80% for each of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, QFPants said: Yes but only statutory holiday entitlement I think. Might affect some of the high flyers on here that get loads. Our company told us today that nobody will be allowed to carry any holidays over at the end of the year - so they're now asking staff to take holidays if possible - as they don't want everybody off at the same time at the back end of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Casino said: Which is one reason you had to be employed by Feb 28 to qualify Could you imagine the abuse we would've seen with firms recruiting folk to get the 80% for each of them Other side of that coin is we had just taken 2 lads on at start of March, couldn't furlough them so they're now out of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 9, 2020 I had one start just after beginning of March Started a new job next day Welding up hospital beds Every cloud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, ErnestTurnip said: Other side of that coin is we had just taken 2 lads on at start of March, couldn't furlough them so they're now out of work. One of my mates works for a company that had interviewed and offered jobs to 3 new starters, they'd served their notice period at their old/existing firms and should have a started their new jobs at the start of April - sadly, they've had their work offers withdrawn for the time being........poor fuckers now have nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Another thing about this furlough, we’ve had a good month March and plenty of profit why should government pay March salary when we are trading at a profit? April’s been steady as well, we might even break even, again if a company make a profit or break even why should government pay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 9, 2020 Cos it's going to cost a whole lot more if they have to check eligibility, I'd guess And if I couldn't show your company had lost money last month, I'd be a pretty shit accountant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Apart from the critics fact this has nothing to do with a company being profitable or not of course we made several billion profit in the last financial year but are still using the scheme. JSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, Sweep said: One of my mates works for a company that had interviewed and offered jobs to 3 new starters, they'd served their notice period at their old/existing firms and should have a started their new jobs at the start of April - sadly, they've had their work offers withdrawn for the time being........poor fuckers now have nothing Quite a few like that at our place too. Some had also started in the first week of March so they got paid up to the end of the month and then let go. Poor fuckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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