Moderators Casino Posted April 5, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, MickyD said: With no tackles and no players within 2m of each other? Nothing would shock me Every chance we are going to be wasting test capacity on premier league footballers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Casino said: If paramedics are going to be stationed at these games, the country really has lost the plot They tend to be employed by the individual clubs so they won’t be taken from the front line as such. Though there again I think there’s a substantial argument that they should be on the front line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted April 5, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: They tend to be employed by the individual clubs so they won’t be taken from the front line as such. Though there again I think there’s a substantial argument that they should be on the front line. Yes. If a paramedic is on a "nice little earner"by attending a footy match he may as well be being utilised as a paramedic in his patch. The only thing preventing this would be a lack of available ambulances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 The only reason that the season will finish is because of money. therefore they will find some bizarre way to finish it. It will show the game as morally bankrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ani said: The only reason that the season will finish is because of money. therefore they will find some bizarre way to finish it. It will show the game as morally bankrupt. Because if the money I think prem and possibly championship will finish, I’ll be very surprised if league 1 or 2 finish. Edited April 5, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Because if the money I think prem and possibly championship will finish, very surprising if league 1 or 2 finish. Be surprised if any division play the games; but we as always wont benefit because they will NOT void the season but do something like a pools panel to decide the outstanding games results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) Like I said last week clubs have lawyers at the ready as the implications are massive if it’s canned I’m going for a July start up Edited April 5, 2020 by radcliffe white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 hours ago, MickyD said: With no tackles and no players within 2m of each other? Just like back end of 15/16 and back end of last season then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 5, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: They tend to be employed by the individual clubs so they won’t be taken from the front line as such. Though there again I think there’s a substantial argument that they should be on the front line. By paramedics, i was using the term too loosely Pretty sure an ambulance is required to be stationed at every game? Ill bow to you, though, if you tell me im wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Casino said: By paramedics, i was using the term too loosely Pretty sure an ambulance is required to be stationed at every game? Ill bow to you, though, if you tell me im wrong Two ambulances, one for the crowd and one for players. Only the crowd one is provided by NWAS (for example) though and presumably wouldn’t be necessary. The players one is owned by the clubs and the medics employed as such along with club doctor and crowd doctor. As @MickyD says though, if they’re covering games then they can cover on the front line, and take the private ambulance (no, not that sort) with them. Personally I can see the Prem playing as many games as possible at as few venues as possible so that such resources aren’t stretched too much. Pay a handful of doctors to cover 2/3 games a day apiece rather than any number of combinations of 19 different ones. Edited April 5, 2020 by Leyther_Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 5, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 5, 2020 Fair enough Im with ani Itll be sold as breaking the monotony for everybody locked up at home Prob even fta some games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: Fair enough Im with ani Itll be sold as breaking the monotony for everybody locked up at home Prob even fta some games The implications of the TV deal will dictate that it is finished as @radcliffewhite1 says. Though I don’t think they’ll be too arsed about finishing the Championship and certainly not Leagues One or Two. They will get the teams all thrown in to the same hotel and play 3/4 games a day, possibly even at one of the training grounds given the quality of the pitches at Carrington or Etihad Campus for example rather than potentially drawing people to a stadium. Given the fucktards who keep going out, 6 hours of football on the telly might do the trick of getting people to stay inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Like I said last week clubs have lawyers at the ready as the implications are massive if it’s canned I’m going for a July start up Lawyers my arse Act of god clauses (Force Majoure) in all agreements, this virus would easily trigger that clause Also within the rules that a season has to be completed by June or something like that Anyway, without Paramedics you ain’t playing football in 2020 They either finish next year or go and play it in Belarus Edited April 5, 2020 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Lawyers my arse Act of god clauses (Force Majoure) in all agreements, this virus would easily trigger that clause Also within the rules that a season has to be completed by June or something like that Anyway, without Paramedics you ain’t playing football in 2020 They either finish next year or go and play it in Belarus Stop chatting shit man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Lawyers my arse Act of god clauses (Force Majoure) in all agreements, this virus would easily trigger that clause Also within the rules that a season has to be completed by June or something like that Anyway, without Paramedics you ain’t playing football in 2020 They either finish next year or go and play it in Belarus It wont finish the season will be decided by the powers that be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovit Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Precisely Casino. If, and I very much doubt it will happen, this season is abandoned completely do Bury get reinstated as a third tier club as they were in August 2019? The potential for legal challenges are endless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 minute ago, ianovit said: Precisely Casino. If, and I very much doubt it will happen, this season is abandoned completely do Bury get reinstated as a third tier club as they were in August 2019? The potential for legal challenges are endless. No as currently Steve dale is still in charge he failed and still can’t raise the funds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Stop chatting shit man Seriously though, play it through, what’s a lawyer seriously going to say if the league governing body decide to do X, Y or Z? To be fair, I think they will finish the season as it’s unlikely to be back on in time for August, they might as well finish this one if it’s getting into 2021 rather than start a new one Think were looking at at least 6 months, probably 9 without major sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Seriously though, play it through, what’s a lawyer seriously going to say if the league governing body decide to do X, Y or Z? To be fair, I think they will finish the season as it’s unlikely to be back on in time for August, they might as well finish this one if it’s getting into 2021 rather than start a new one Think were looking at at least 6 months, probably 9 without major sport Next season will get the fall out from this and don’t forget the euros have been cancelled so they will be starting next June without fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Be surprised if any division play the games; but we as always wont benefit because they will NOT void the season but do something like a pools panel to decide the outstanding games results Absolutely zero chance of a panel deciding results, that would lead to litigation after litigation, simple option is null and void season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 There's talk the Bundesliga will be back in May (I think it's fanciful that soon but teams are returning to training) behind closed doors. If one major European league starts up again within next month or two then the pressure from numerous parties to get on with Premier League might be too much to resist, despite the risks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Absolutely zero chance of a panel deciding results, that would lead to litigation after litigation, simple option is null and void season. Well I don't believe any games will take place before July at the earliest in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Private jets take all PL squads to Belarus and play the games there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: Absolutely zero chance of a panel deciding results, that would lead to litigation after litigation, simple option is null and void season. Zero point in a Panel deciding results, they need to get the PL games done so they don’t lose £750m, they won’t get that if a panel just makes the results up Honestly can’t see any litigations taking place, it’s a once in a hundred years act of god event, no way through it without upsetting one side or another (unless they manage to get through this and next season unscathed - unlikely) Its pointing towards finishing this season whenever but then a shortened season next year, that will come with a big financial penalty for the Leagues through both reduced TV income and gate receipts Edited April 6, 2020 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, birch-chorley said: Zero point in a Panel deciding results, they need to get the PL games done so they don’t lose £750m, they won’t get that if a panel just makes the results up Honestly can’t see any litigations taking place, it’s a once in a hundred years act of god event, no way through it without upsetting one side or another (unless they manage to get through this and next season unscathed - unlikely) Its pointing towards finishing this season whenever but then a shortened season next year, that will come with a big financial penalty for the Leagues through both reduced TV income and gate receipts There is £750m at stake here. There is no solution that makes everyone happy so litigation is pretty much a certainty. Players contracts will be up before this is sorted so that needs to be addressed. The ‘integrity of the competition’ is a total red herring it is all about the money. Clubs are using the government scheme for the tea lady whilst paying players £100k per week so integrity is clearly not an issue. Everyone says we are 2/3 weeks behind Italy who are still in lockdown. Say for at least 2 more weeks. So we are mid May before clubs can start training again. 2/3 weeks to get fit is June. That is best case reality probably later. City have 10 games left to play at 2 per week that is 5 weeks so mid July. (Assume FA cup and Champions league get canned although what is £££ implication of that ??). Clubs will support self interest. 3 PL teams on 27 points. 3 goals between them. Villa 2 points back with a game in hand. Season can only be finished by playing games. That can only happen if clubs extend contracts but that won’t always be practical. The only solution is to void the season other than the £750m issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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