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26 minutes ago, Kane57 said:

I wouldn;t say he was particularly good for us. I can't remember many games that he won, when I can think of a few that Jussi and Branagan did, but given where we are and where we are going he is probably about as good as we are going to get. I wouldn't be upset if he left but I'd be quite happy if he stayed on. If that makes sense. I'm not sure it does.

Unfair to compare him to two amazing keepers.

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Matthews, Lowe & Crawford are the 3 senior pros who i hoped we'd keep.  It's a shame that 2 of them are already looking like leaving but not surprising i suppose.

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Although some of Matthews’ brain farts were perplexing to say the least, he did remarkably well in quite a few games last season when he would have had much more to do than any goalkeeper would reasonably expect. I would like to think he’d be a stand out player in League Two, but likewise I wouldn’t blame him for wanting a fresh start after the stress of the last two seasons. 

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44 minutes ago, tomski said:

Unfair to compare him to two amazing keepers.

Mentioning Jussi as a top player illustrates my point.  Great saves, poor command of his area, terrible kicking, flapped at crosses, made basic errors (that one at Stockport on the Youtube thread recently wasnt unusual).  I'm not disputing he was a top keeper for us and made saves Matthews couldnt have reached, but very few keepers dont have faults.  Branagan was my favourite FWIW, most reliable keeper I've seen.

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47 minutes ago, bolton va va said:

Matthews, Lowe & Crawford are the 3 senior pros who i hoped we'd keep.  It's a shame that 2 of them are already looking like leaving but not surprising i suppose.

I dont consider them as Bolton players.  They are just 3 players out of contract, like about 200 others or whatever.  They are no more likely to sign a contract for Bolton as for any other team in the bottom 2 divisions, and there are probably a dozen better options for them in Div 1.  When you sack a manager you lose all those contacts, they are just ex-players.

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2 hours ago, tomski said:

Unfair to compare him to two amazing keepers.

I meant more that every single keeper has a flap in them - Branny and Jussi guilty of plenty themselves.

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2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Mentioning Jussi as a top player illustrates my point.  Great saves, poor command of his area, terrible kicking, flapped at crosses, made basic errors (that one at Stockport on the Youtube thread recently wasnt unusual).  I'm not disputing he was a top keeper for us and made saves Matthews couldnt have reached, but very few keepers dont have faults.  Branagan was my favourite FWIW, most reliable keeper I've seen.

I dont have branagan anywhere near the level of jussi

Not saying he wasnt a good un, mind

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2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Mentioning Jussi as a top player illustrates my point.  Great saves, poor command of his area, terrible kicking, flapped at crosses, made basic errors (that one at Stockport on the Youtube thread recently wasnt unusual).  I'm not disputing he was a top keeper for us and made saves Matthews couldnt have reached, but very few keepers dont have faults.  Branagan was my favourite FWIW, most reliable keeper I've seen.

Spot on 

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17 minutes ago, Casino said:

I dont have branagan anywhere near the level of jussi

Not saying he wasnt a good un, mind

Jussi was better on his day, no doubt.  Like that save at Villa Park in top corner, and the 2 pen saves at Ewood etc.  Reached stuff Branagan and others could only dream of.  But if we had a play off final tomorrow and I had to pick a keeper who I could rely on, isn't going to drop a bollock or let in long range shots he doesnt get down to quick enough, I'd go with Branny.  Plus he was a great leader who I trusted in big games to bring the best out of others. I always got the impression Jussi was all about concentrating on his own game, not the team's, just my opinion.

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What we don't want, is the next Simon Farnworth or David Felgate, but it's what we will get unfortunately.

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I'd like to think we had a few decent Keepers over the years, Barry Siddall, Jim McDonagh, Peter Shilton all very capable goalkeepers.

Also think Ali alhabsi was a decent keeper.

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27 minutes ago, Whitestar said:

I'd like to think we had a few decent Keepers over the years, Barry Siddall, Jim McDonagh, Peter Shilton all very capable goalkeepers.

Also think Ali alhabsi was a decent keeper.

Shilton only played one game 

I was impressed with dibble & Clarke 

Habsi yes was decent 

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We didn't loose the Shilton game though, was it 1-1 away at Stoke or Derby ?

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3 minutes ago, Whitestar said:

We didn't loose the Shilton game though, was it 1-1 away at Stoke or Derby ?

Came on at stoke when davison got sent off

and only start was wolves in play off semi 

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Was it Stoke 1-1?

I know it was the game that confirmed Middlesbrough had been promoted coz that season only 2 teams went up.

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Just now, Whitestar said:

Was it Stoke 1-1?

I know it was the game that confirmed Middlesbrough had been promoted coz that season only 2 teams went up.

Yep 1-1 

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I've not been arsed to look any of this up, its just from memory: iirc our last game that season was home to Burnley, draw again i think, so if Davison was suspended and shilts didn't play till the play offs, who played in goal in the last game?

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27 minutes ago, Whitestar said:

I've not been arsed to look any of this up, its just from memory: iirc our last game that season was home to Burnley, draw again i think, so if Davison was suspended and shilts didn't play till the play offs, who played in goal in the last game?

Not sure 

I’m guessing Davison as back then didn’t suspensions start a week later? 

Edited by radcliffewhite1

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14 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Jussi was better on his day, no doubt.  Like that save at Villa Park in top corner, and the 2 pen saves at Ewood etc.  Reached stuff Branagan and others could only dream of.  But if we had a play off final tomorrow and I had to pick a keeper who I could rely on, isn't going to drop a bollock or let in long range shots he doesnt get down to quick enough, I'd go with Branny.  Plus he was a great leader who I trusted in big games to bring the best out of others. I always got the impression Jussi was all about concentrating on his own game, not the team's, just my opinion.

Branagan was much better with his feet than Jussi - Branny played County football as an outfield player in his youth - I've spoken to him about this and he admits that he was a massive beneficiary of the back pass rule coming into force.

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1 hour ago, Whitestar said:

I've not been arsed to look any of this up, its just from memory: iirc our last game that season was home to Burnley, draw again i think, so if Davison was suspended and shilts didn't play till the play offs, who played in goal in the last game?

Looks like Davison to me and must have been a case of when his ban kicked in as @radcliffewhite1 says. Annoyingly the Bolton News archive only seems to be begin later in 1995. 

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So i take it Branny was injured?

Also, we only finish 3rd that season, apart from wolves and Reading who was the other team in the play off?

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1 minute ago, Whitestar said:

So i take it Branny was injured?

Also, we only finish 3rd that season, apart from wolves and Reading who was the other team in the play off?

Yes Branagan was injured IIRC.

Reading beat Tranmere (:lol:) in the other semi final. Barnsley came 6th in what would usually be the last play off place, though we’d have played Wolves regardless. 

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Tranmere!!? I would never have guessed that,

My guess would have been Birmingham, they used to seem to always be in the play offs but never went up.

 

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