tshape Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: Did we poach Parky from Bradford or did he resign/out of contract? Anderson probably somehow got them to pay us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Would I be right in thinking that a lot of player contracts expire on the 30th? If so having a manager in place by then would be crucial to make sure we hit the ground running with transfers. I don’t like the idea of paying such a big price for a non league manager but if we’ve got the money then go for it. Just reckon we could do with some of that money for player contracts... what would you rather have a good manager or more of a pick from the free agent catalogue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Did we poach Parky from Bradford or did he resign/out of contract? I think we poached him for a very low price, think his contract had a small buyout clause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 250K up front seems steep, offer them 125K up front and 125K IF we get promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Francis Fogarty said: If just 2,500 of us put £100 in now, against our future season tickets, job's a good 'un. This is probably for the season tickets thread, but I agree with this completely. Not necessarily to pay for a new manager, but surely they want some income? Loads of us would be happy to "advance" the club £100 to use towards the season ticket. We'd all be paying towards it now under normal circumstances and we'd completely understand the club needs some "readies" for signing new players etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) There is no way we will or should pay 250k for him and is assistant then what ever contract there going to need on  top  well out of our budget  we have to put a team together yet Edited June 24, 2020 by Farnywhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mantra said: Would I be right in thinking that a lot of player contracts expire on the 30th? If so having a manager in place by then would be crucial to make sure we hit the ground running with transfers. I don’t like the idea of paying such a big price for a non league manager but if we’ve got the money then go for it. Just reckon we could do with some of that money for player contracts... what would you rather have a good manager or more of a pick from the free agent catalogue? A good manager obviously, and although he's only been in non league, he got Barrow promoted with a bottom 6 budget, so he's got summat about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: There is no way we will or should pay 250k for him and is assistant then what ever contract there going to need on  top  well out of our budget  we have to put a team together yet How does anyone know what our budget is, plus dont forget we are in an embargo - we cant buy anyone - we cant pay loan fees and we have a salary cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: A good manager obviously, and although he's only been in non league, he got Barrow promoted with a bottom 6 budget, so he's got summat about him. I agree he’s got something about him but I remember Coyle also seemed to with Burnley and he started well with us before it went to pot. I remember David Ginola on MOTD saying he thought we could get top 4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mantra said: Would I be right in thinking that a lot of player contracts expire on the 30th? If so having a manager in place by then would be crucial to make sure we hit the ground running with transfers. I don’t like the idea of paying such a big price for a non league manager but if we’ve got the money then go for it. Just reckon we could do with some of that money for player contracts... what would you rather have a good manager or more of a pick from the free agent catalogue? Good manager every day of the week. We've needed one for about 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Just out of interest, how many currently working managers have got promotion from League 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: How does anyone know what our budget is, plus dont forget we are in an embargo - we cant buy anyone - we cant pay loan fees and we have a salary cap Pretty much the same as everyone else in League Two then, bar Salford. Edited June 24, 2020 by Leyther_Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: How does anyone know what our budget is, plus dont forget we are in an embargo - we cant buy anyone - we cant pay loan fees and we have a salary cap Well we have just lost about a million quid in income if the reports are rights and there were still outstanding debt owed from the takeover still not sorted . So I can’t see our budget being to high . Hopefully if it’s the guy they want they can bring the figure down  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Having a good manager obviously helps, but I'd rather have a good squad of players and an average manager. Anyway, hopefully Evatt's announced as our manager by this time tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: A good manager obviously, and although he's only been in non league, he got Barrow promoted with a bottom 6 budget, so he's got summat about him. And he's had 2 promotions with Blackpool from league 1 to the prem as a player. So deffo got something about him Edited June 24, 2020 by Popeye doyle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Popeye doyle said: And he's had 2 promotions with Blackpool from league 1 to the prem as a player. So deffo got something about him I think I read that he's been promoted from every division in the EFL as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I think I read that he's been promoted from every division in the EFL as a player. Yes promoted from every division as a player and played in prem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Pretty much the same as everyone else in League Two then, bar Salford. Salford have scrapped there academy to save half a million a year  May  be to invest in first team or they might be struggling financially ? Edited June 24, 2020 by Farnywhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Depends how you read the report, I took us getting rid of the u23s as a positive thing with it being uncompetitive kickabouts with your mates that cost a club a chunk of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 I see the paying compo as a good thing and a real sign of intent from FV that they want the right bloke not the cheapest. All positive to me if this in fact the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Having a good manager obviously helps, but I'd rather have a good squad of players and an average manager. Anyway, hopefully Evatt's announced as our manager by this time tomorrow. Not for me. The poor manager will pick the wrong players, in the wrong positions. He'll play the centre forward on the wing (ALF) and go all defensive when we're 1-0 up. For years I've just wanted us to look organised, have a plan and play players in their correct positions. Who those players are is secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Having a good manager obviously helps, but I'd rather have a good squad of players and an average manager. Anyway, hopefully Evatt's announced as our manager by this time tomorrow. Other way round for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, tomski said: I see the paying compo as a good thing and a real sign of intent from FV that they want the right bloke not the cheapest. All positive to me if this in fact the case. Didn’t the clubs CEO resign a few weeks ago to save money ? that’s what came out of the club it’s a huge amount for us I can’t see the compensation  figure being right though why would he agree to a quarter of a million handcuff to barrow if he is ambitious Edited June 24, 2020 by Farnywhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: Didn’t the clubs CEO resign a few weeks ago to save money ? that’s what came out of the club it’s a huge amount for us I can’t see the compensation  figure being right though why would he agree to a quarter of a million handcuff to barrow if he is ambitious Not sure that was the case but I’m only guessing. I think an ambitious manager would agree that kind of compo as he’d have the belief it would be paid (like it seems to have) and he can probably earn a few more quid with a higher release??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Not for me. The poor manager will pick the wrong players, in the wrong positions. He'll play the centre forward on the wing (ALF) and go all defensive when we're 1-0 up. For years I've just wanted us to look organised, have a plan and play players in their correct positions. Who those players are is secondary. I never mentioned poor managers, and in any case Parky certainly isn't a poor manager. Good managers will definitely improve players, but if the raw materials aren't there then a good manager can only do so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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