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4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Didn't  i hear someone say, when they start employing black managers at teams in the African nations......

Some have been given a chance, some have been good like Chris Houghton, some have been steady like Chris Powell and some have been utter shit like Paul Ince and that bloke from Wolves who was McCarthy's assistant, so its the same thing with white managers, some good, some shit, its a Lottery that has fuck all to do with colour.

Clubs bring in whichever manager they think will do the best job for their club, its got nothing to do with race, unfortunately your John Barnes' of this world have tried and failed, and like other managers have disappeared into obscurity but seem to think they have never been given a chance.

Which is exactly my point. Reason there are limited numbers is they aren’t deemed good enough because of what they are deemed capable of. Fuck all to do with colour. In the UK I’m speaking of of course 

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Hi Smithills gent 

Bolton fans going into BarrowWays to troll them is one of the most embarrassing things I've ever heard of. How small-time have we now become?

Given the current climate I think it would be fitting to give the job to Phil Brown he would be our first black manager 🖤

6 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Didn't  i hear someone say, when they start employing black managers at teams in the African nations......

Some have been given a chance, some have been good like Chris Houghton, some have been steady like Chris Powell and some have been utter shit like Paul Ince and that bloke from Wolves who was McCarthy's assistant, so its the same thing with white managers, some good, some shit, its a Lottery that has fuck all to do with colour.

Clubs bring in whichever manager they think will do the best job for their club, its got nothing to do with race, unfortunately your John Barnes' of this world have tried and failed, and like other managers have disappeared into obscurity but seem to think they have never been given a chance.

I think there's more to it than that. How can it be that there are so few black managers, not just in this country but in other countries as well?

Particularly when you factor in the ratio of black to white players.

I'm not suggesting that explicit racism is rife in football but I think there's probably still quite a lot of unconcious prejudice about.

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Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think there's more to it than that. How can it be that there are so few black managers, not just in this country but in other countries as well?

Particularly when you factor in the ratio of black to white players.

I'm not suggesting that explicit racism is rife in football but I think there's probably still quite a lot of unconcious prejudice about.

How many black players choose that path? That would be my starting point. 

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Has Shazza got anyone lined up, you would like to think so. 

Hill was a rush job, the majority went with it and he was in a win win situation but fucked it up, i suspect she is going to take her time with this one and hopefully get the right appointment.

Ricketts at Shrewsbury fits the bill, done well, big side and they looked decent.

Wellens, don't know much about him, but promotion with Swindon suggest he is also a decent bet.

But it generally doesn't work out like that, look at Nathen Jones at Stoke, flying at Luton and went to a club with pots of money gambling on getting back to the PL, now back at Luton, do we need the next Phil Neal that will lead to the next Rioch.... ?

Level points, League 2, top Stadium, decent history, surely we can attract a decent top ambitious manager who wants to build from the bottom up.

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52 minutes ago, Traf said:

Sol Campbell applied for the Grimsby job, but withdrew his application because he felt hie shouldn't need to be interviewed.

Says it all...

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5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think there's more to it than that. How can it be that there are so few black managers, not just in this country but in other countries as well?

Particularly when you factor in the ratio of black to white players.

I'm not suggesting that explicit racism is rife in football but I think there's probably still quite a lot of unconcious prejudice about.

I sort of agree, but there are a lot of coaches at clubs from BAME backgrounds, Viera went to the U.S. to cut his teeth, Rudd Gullit was looking good but lost it, Ince was just a prick.

It is a conundrum, if we employed N'Gotty, Djorkaeff or Muamba they would have my full support, but if they played shit football and the results were crap and there wasn't any progress being made, they would get some stick, fuck colour it doesn't matter, i just want a successful manager, even if he (no birds) is black with pink Mr Blobby spots, they will do for me.

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Just now, Mr Grey said:

I sort of agree, but there are a lot of coaches at clubs from BAME backgrounds, Viera went to the U.S. to cut his teeth, Rudd Gullit was looking good but lost it, Ince was just a prick.

It is a conundrum, if we employed N'Gotty, Djorkaeff or Muamba they would have my full support, but if they played shit football and the results were crap and there wasn't any progress being made, they would get some stick, fuck colour it doesn't matter, i just want a successful manager, even if he (no birds) is black with pink Mr Blobby spots, they will do for me.

Correct. I’d love someone like Karl Henry to come back and manage, he’d take no shit. Has he done coaching badges or got an inclination to manage? No idea. If he has, he’d be worth a look

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Just now, Biggish Dave said:

Correct. I’d love someone like Karl Henry to come back and manage, he’d take no shit. Has he done coaching badges or got an inclination to manage? No idea. If he has, he’d be worth a look

Good point there Dave, and he would be welcomed with open arms, had respect has a player, knew how to play, can he manage? Could be Shazza's wild card.

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4 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

Correct. I’d love someone like Karl Henry to come back and manage, he’d take no shit. Has he done coaching badges or got an inclination to manage? No idea. If he has, he’d be worth a look

He talks a lot of sense but don’t think we need someone without some managerial experience. 

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13 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think there's more to it than that. How can it be that there are so few black managers, not just in this country but in other countries as well?

Particularly when you factor in the ratio of black to white players.

I'm not suggesting that explicit racism is rife in football but I think there's probably still quite a lot of unconcious prejudice about.

The opportunities are there in football, whatever the colour of your skin.

It really rattles me when Ince & Barnes say that they are victims of racism. No, you shitbags, you’ve proved that you’re not a good manager, that’s why you can’t get another managerial job.

I want a successful guy in charge, and I don’t give a fuck about the colour of his skin.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

I sort of agree, but there are a lot of coaches at clubs from BAME backgrounds, Viera went to the U.S. to cut his teeth, Rudd Gullit was looking good but lost it, Ince was just a prick.

It is a conundrum, if we employed N'Gotty, Djorkaeff or Muamba they would have my full support, but if they played shit football and the results were crap and there wasn't any progress being made, they would get some stick, fuck colour it doesn't matter, i just want a successful manager, even if he (no birds) is black with pink Mr Blobby spots, they will do for me.

Before all this Black Lives Matters shite I would have loved a Black manager as long as he really did know his onions. Now never

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1 minute ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

Before all this Black Lives Matters shite I would have loved a Black manager as long as he really did know his onions. Now never

It would feel a bit like bowing to public or media pressure and that would be wrong, anyway has Hope Powell or that ugly budgie faced trill eating twat Phil Neville entered the betting.

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17 minutes ago, Steejay said:

Says it all...

Being arrogant and having an over inflated opinion of your own ability isnt in itself a reason not to be appointed, if you're any good.  We got into Europe with one so I've no problem on that basis.  We could do a lot worse than Campbell for me, but I'll get behind any manager, whoever it is.  Until they prove to be very annoying, as with every BW manager since Rioch.  Literally the only manager I've ever known that I didnt fall out with.

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2 hours ago, Traf said:

Sol Campbell applied for the Grimsby job, but withdrew his application because he felt hie shouldn't need to be interviewed.

Except he did have an interview, and they turned him down due to lack of experience....

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Big Mick

Not sure we could attract what I think is a top Championship Manager to drop down to Division 4

I don’t want to be all Leeds United but would say “Mick, you have the chance to lead one of the founder members of the Football League, a patient fan base, top stadium, do you want the challenge of leading us up through the divisions pal?”

Make not mistake the BWFC Manager job is still very attractive, even if the Shrewsbury fans think differently 

Win or lose, our away followings next year will be top fuckin class. Thousands will tip up

With the right Manager, if we start off on a roll, the bandwagon will start. Make no mistake

We need someone with experience and someone who knows how to win games ugly

Big Mick all day for me, but with his record I think he will have other opportunities unfortunately. If not available, would try for Warnock. The BWFC job in division 4 isn’t for someone who is new to role. Need an old cunt, with bags of experience. And Big Mick and Warnock will speak our language and play the style of football that wins games

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Some Bundersliga 2 Manager, that seemed to be flavour of the month last time I can remember football. Like a mini Klopp 

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7 hours ago, Hutch said:

Big Mick

Not sure we could attract what I think is a top Championship Manager to drop down to Division 4

I don’t want to be all Leeds United but would say “Mick, you have the chance to lead one of the founder members of the Football League, a patient fan base, top stadium, do you want the challenge of leading us up through the divisions pal?”

Make not mistake the BWFC Manager job is still very attractive, even if the Shrewsbury fans think differently 

Win or lose, our away followings next year will be top fuckin class. Thousands will tip up

With the right Manager, if we start off on a roll, the bandwagon will start. Make no mistake

We need someone with experience and someone who knows how to win games ugly

Big Mick all day for me, but with his record I think he will have other opportunities unfortunately. If not available, would try for Warnock. The BWFC job in division 4 isn’t for someone who is new to role. Need an old cunt, with bags of experience. And Big Mick and Warnock will speak our language and play the style of football that wins games

 

 

 

 

 

 

Big Mick? Mick McCarthy?

Warnock we ain’t getting nor do I want, he needs to spend the ain’t got it to spend, oh and he’s a cunt

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What am I missing with Phil Brown, I know he has been on the wane, but loads of experience and knowledge of the club from almost when we were here last time.
Not saying I do want him but never understood the reticence from most?

Same goes for Nolan too, bar the experience bit obviously, I would be OK with either.

 

 

 

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Not really bothered hill has gone.  Like a lot have said, a free hit which very few get and he royally ballsed up.

he spouted shite from day 1 looking back and his formations, tactics and personnel were totally baffling.

all I want going forward is someone who puts 11 players out, in a structured fashion, that give it their all for the shirts and start to restore some faith and pride in all that is bwfc 

is that too much to ask???

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55 minutes ago, tomski said:

First time I actually don’t care. They just have to get it right. We are in the division 4 basement in terms of managers. 

Pretty much the same 

not keen on the ex player bit but go with the flow 

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It would be nice if we could get a young up and coming manager like Ricketts,, in part because it would suggest there's backing to go along with ambition. 

From the choice above however I voted for Nigel Clough, on the basis he's experience at managing successfully on low budgets. Not sure whether this is pragmatism or pessimism. Maybe a bit of both...

 

 

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1 hour ago, JimmyRiddle said:

What am I missing with Phil Brown, I know he has been on the wane, but loads of experience and knowledge of the club from almost when we were here last time.
Not saying I do want him but never understood the reticence from most?

Same goes for Nolan too, bar the experience bit obviously, I would be OK with either.

 

 

 

Browny. Did he have a 100% record as caretaker? 

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just looked at the Sky bet odda and it mentioned Michael Beale. Had to google him to be honest. He's first team coach at Rangers and came from Liverpool so Gerrard must know him well.

Can't see us paying any compo for anyone so it would be an out of work manager, how about Paul Hurst?

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2 minutes ago, Norpig said:

just looked at the Sky bet odda and it mentioned Michael Beale. Had to google him to be honest. He's first team coach at Rangers and came from Liverpool so Gerrard must know him well.

Can't see us paying any compo for anyone so it would be an out of work manager, how about Paul Hurst?

No thanks and definitely not. 

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