DomRepWanderer Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Popeye doyle said: I'm wondering if the administrators have mentioned to the EFL that with the 12 point deduction this season they are having great difficulty convincing any potential buyer to take Wigan on. In effect blaming the EFL for losing a club by their actions. Why should the EFL take that into account? we were in the same boat 12 months ago, doesn't make a scrap of difference, they are fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Independent panel making the decision on Wigans appeal. Edited August 1, 2020 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Popeye doyle said: I'm wondering if the administrators have mentioned to the EFL that with the 12 point deduction this season they are having great difficulty convincing any potential buyer to take Wigan on. In effect blaming the EFL for losing a club by their actions. That argument didn’t change our 12 point deduction. If it gets turned over I’m sure they’ll be a legal challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: Independent panel making the decision on Wigans appeal. Oh good! yep they're fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted August 1, 2020 Members Share Posted August 1, 2020 Can someone explains why Sheff W’s point deduction didn’t apply this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rudy said: Can someone explains why Sheff W’s point deduction didn’t apply this season? To piss Wigan off even more, well I'd like that to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 1, 2020 Moderators Share Posted August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rudy said: Can someone explains why Sheff W’s point deduction didn’t apply this season? Is it for ffp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted August 1, 2020 Members Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Casino said: Is it for ffp? Yeah. If they didn’t sell the stadium they would have made a losses of about 60m over 3 years and can only lose £40m over three years, so I suppose that’s a breach of FFP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 My understanding is that there are rules about insolvency and administration which is what Wigan have done. The rule for that is a 12 point deduction, when that occurs is also a rule but because of covid the EFL had to decide when it should happen for Wigan. Presumably based loosely on the existing rules. Sheff Wed were being investigated for breach of ffp rules. I don't know if there are hard and fast rules around this in terms of what the punishment should be and crucially when it should happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rudy said: Yeah. If they didn’t sell the stadium they would have made a losses of about 60m over 3 years and can only lose £40m over three years, so I suppose that’s a breach of FFP The stadium has been sold massively ahead of market value like double and derby and even worse. Think their owner paid 90m for the ground. Which is silly and unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 1, 2020 Moderators Share Posted August 1, 2020 I think rudy gets that Its about the timing of the penalty I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Gee Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 It goes to an independent panel and they decide when the points deduction comes into force. Could have been this season or next, guess they tossed a coin and when it came up heads to take it off this season they had best 2 out of 3 so next season won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 derby, reading and villa did the same, so i expect them to be treated the same way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Gee Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Wednesday was more about which years accounts they appeared on and when the money was moved rather than the fact they sold their stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted August 1, 2020 Members Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: I think rudy gets that Its about the timing of the penalty I think? Yeah I’m not sure why one punishment qualifies for this season and one for next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 1, 2020 Moderators Share Posted August 1, 2020 'Stormin norman' on dics speyk Quote If someone like......Say Koukash buys the club one thing is for sure he'll go high profile he'll want Prem football asap. He wont mess around with the likes of Jones, Clough etc. dear god Theyre in for a big kick in the bollocks reality check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Casino said: 'Stormin norman' on dics speyk dear god Theyre in for a big kick in the bollocks reality check I can't get my head around Wiganers talking about their next manager. I'm sure psychotherapists would be able to explain the phenomenom. Fucked if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Casino said: 'Stormin norman' on dics speyk dear god Theyre in for a big kick in the bollocks reality check Whatever these boys are sniffing I wouldn’t mind some. 6am kitchen talk that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Casino said: I think rudy gets that Its about the timing of the penalty I think? It’s different cos it’s ffp. That’s all I can add. Insolvency the rules are clear and in stone. FFP bit wishy washy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Popeye doyle said: Oh good! yep they're fucked. The independent disciplinary panel were lenient with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Stormin norman is the thickest and most deluded on spastics speyk and thats some competition. Was puttung a positive spin on no preferred bidder- more interest to start a bidding war! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, snowball said: Stormin norman is the thickest and most deluded on spastics speyk and thats some competition. Was puttung a positive spin on no preferred bidder- more interest to start a bidding war! 🤣 🤣 bidding war! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Popeye doyle said: 🤣 bidding war! I’ll raise you 50p..... sold. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’ll raise you 50p..... sold. 😂 Now you just need to find the other £999,999.50 a month to keep the shitbags running 😬🤭 And in other news the bloke who started all this Chip Shop Sharpey has rocked up at Mansfield in some kind of Tobias Phoenix role. pmsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’ll raise you 50p..... sold. 😂 Nobody would offer 50p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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