BLM

[Spider]

10 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

No, that's the Trump thread where everyone is noshing each other off.

😁

Thought you and Bolty weren’t reading it ?

At least Royal (obsessed) still ventures in there to be humiliated every so often. He’s got bottle ❤️

[Tonge moor green jacket]

12 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Over 60s on here.

Old lives matter.

[DazBob]

Ahhh, shiiiiit. Here we go again.

[Casino]

1 minute ago, DazBob said:

Ahhh, shiiiiit. Here we go again.

Its ok, darren

Leave em to it

Clearly their twitter echo chambers arent enough to satisfy

[athywhite1958]

51 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Old lives matter.

Spot on, don't fuck with the wrinklies 😃

[Ani]

Not been on much. The whole world is depressing enough at the moment without get embroiled on here. Clearly backing an organisation like BLM is a major fuck up for large organisations without checking their larger agenda and at that level the distinction between BLM and blm is IMO not relevant. 
However I do think at an individual level there is a distinction between people backing a ‘movement’ that says black lives matter and backing the total agenda of the BLM. Certainly the people I know who attended the marches were focussed solely on the blm message. I honestly think people were backing the specific message black lives matter and I am not going to slag anyone off for that. 
Should the EPL have used ‘kick it Out’ ? I can see why but that is a very UK based organisation and I think the idea was to get a message to a global audience. Clearly if they did this to back BLM they have dropped a bollock. 
The whole message and meaning of blm is still important and relevant. The name is provocative and the debate ‘what about white lives’ has been more useful than the simple kick it out message. As it has made people think about the message and why it is relevant. On the deleted thread I tried to explain why BLM had an anti capitalism message and the closing prison message, but at the same time said that if you are getting rid of something you need to explain what the replacement would be. 
The biggest irony of all this is that the EPL has promoted an anti capitalism organisation with a BLM message at the same time as rushing football back for purely financial reasons and at the same time increasing the risk of infection to the many black players in the game. 

Edited July 2, 2020 by Ani

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Its ok, darren

Leave em to it

Clearly their twitter echo chambers arent enough to satisfy

Clearly you don't like the truth. Stick to the BBC who ironically aren't forcing their employees to wear badges anymore.

[London Wanderer]

I think it's hilarious that one of Britain's most powerful corporations supported an organisation with an anti-capitalist message for so long... But they saw the light in the end ey. Le Tissier doesn't want the communists coming for his hard earned millions. 😆

You can say I need to wake up as much as you want Miami pal.. but we can all surely accept that this situation is complex.. I won't be boring you on this thread with my waffling as we've covered most bases on here previously. And often I just get quoted as saying things I never endorced or supported. @Ani raises some important points.

The protests we saw in recent weeks are so much more than BLM. Surely we can all admit that there are issues with systemic racism in the US police, prison system & judiciary? Fair play the players & politicians who agreed that these issues need tackling.

Should they have done it through BLM. Probably not. Maybe a simple end racism message or solidarity with black Americans. 

It's looking like BLM are too devisive & fragmented to ignite the change needed... But they've opened up a lot of conversations & possibilities.

[miamiwhite]

5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I think it's hilarious that one of Britain's most powerful corporations supported an organisation with an anti-capitalist message for so long... But they saw the light in the end ey. Le Tissier doesn't want the communists coming for his hard earned millions. 😆

You can say I need to wake up as much as you want Miami pal.. but we can all surely accept that this situation is complex.. I won't be boring you on this thread with my waffling as we've covered most bases on here previously. And often I just get quoted as saying things I never endorced or supported. @Ani raises some important points.

The protests we saw in recent weeks are so much more than BLM. Surely we can all admit that there are issues with systemic racism in the US police, prison system & judiciary? Fair play the players & politicians who agreed that these issues need tackling.

Should they have done it through BLM. Probably not. Maybe a simple end racism message or solidarity with black Americans. 

It's looking like BLM are too devisive & fragmented to ignite the change needed... But they've opened up a lot of conversations & possibilities.

I told you to wake up fella re the left taking over re BLM, that has been proven now. Case shut.

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

 

Clearly their twitter echo chambers arent enough to satisfy

Don't all the cool dudes use Parler now instead, Twitter is so commercial and is practically MSM these days, they stifle freedom of speech and stuff, I think.

[peelyfeet]

10 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Don't all the cool dudes use Parler now instead, Twitter is so commercial and is practically MSM these days, they stifle freedom of speech and stuff, I think.

Isn't it an exile for mainly right wingers? - regardless I won't be downloading it to have a look, they're all time stealers designed to keep you on as long as possible -

 

This is what the Guardian has recently written about it    

On Tuesday, Parler’s 26-year-old chief executive, John Matze, put out a list of “basic rules” for the platform. Those include a blanket ban on pastimes that seem important to its audience, such as:

posting photos of fecal matter whenever you disagree with someone;

threatening to kill people;

or repeatedly spamming people with “fuck you” in every comment.

“It’s pointless. Grow up,” Matze said in his statement.

 

Edited July 2, 2020 by peelyfeet

[Farrelli]

23 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I think it's hilarious that one of Britain's most powerful corporations supported an organisation with an anti-capitalist message for so long... But they saw the light in the end ey. Le Tissier doesn't want the communists coming for his hard earned millions. 😆

You can say I need to wake up as much as you want Miami pal.. but we can all surely accept that this situation is complex.. I won't be boring you on this thread with my waffling as we've covered most bases on here previously. And often I just get quoted as saying things I never endorced or supported. @Ani raises some important points.

The protests we saw in recent weeks are so much more than BLM. Surely we can all admit that there are issues with systemic racism in the US police, prison system & judiciary? Fair play the players & politicians who agreed that these issues need tackling.

Should they have done it through BLM. Probably not. Maybe a simple end racism message or solidarity with black Americans. 

It's looking like BLM are too devisive & fragmented to ignite the change needed... But they've opened up a lot of conversations & possibilities.

Yep, complex issue. 

It might be too much for some to appreciate (no names but #orange lives matter).

 

[Sweep]

One of my friends is on it, I've no intention of downloading it at all - it is a proper racist hangout from what he was showing me. Anywhere that welcomes Katie Hopkins is really no place at all for right minded people

[Ani]

Is it right Troy Deanys missus designed the blm logo on the players shirts ? 
 

I mean right as in true not right as in correct although that might also be valid. 

[miamiwhite]

20 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Yep, complex issue. 

It might be too much for some to appreciate (no names but #orange lives matter).

 

Listen you patronising coward, I understand it fully. And for the record I was on about BLMuk, that's if you or your chum can even read it correctly. He changed the record as always to America 

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

I didn't know you could cherry pick part of a movement, i suppose all people who support a group or a movement may not agree with all it's policies, but it just shows that a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon with BLM, the BBC and the rest of the MSM, EPL etc.... embarrassing for these organisations and one big climbdown without much of an apology, more like lets ignore it now like it never happened. You would have think they would have learned something after extinction rebellion.

 

Exactly mate, like I said re Sutcliffe being a decent lorry driver....BUT

[miamiwhite]

3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

He probably was a good lorry driver, also a dab hand with an hammer 😄

Almost as good as Fred West being a decent builder.......BUT

[peelyfeet]

14 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

I didn't know you could cherry pick part of a movement, i suppose all people who support a group or a movement that they may not agree with and all it's policies, but it just shows that a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon with BLM, the BBC and the rest of the MSM, EPL etc.... embarrassing for these organisations and one big climbdown without much of an apology, more like lets ignore it now like it never happened. You would have think they would have learned something after extinction rebellion.

 

You can cherry pick what you want. You don't have to agree with everything that every political individual or movement says. Better to climbdown than carry on with stuff you don't believe in just because you were naive. Everyone makes mistakes. Its those that have the balls to admit, and then try and rectify that should be appreciated IMO, so we'll see what happens.

[Ani]

31 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

I didn't know you could cherry pick part of a movement, i suppose all people who support a group or a movement that they may not agree with and all it's policies, but it just shows that a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon with BLM, the BBC and the rest of the MSM, EPL etc.... embarrassing for these organisations and one big climbdown without much of an apology, more like lets ignore it now like it never happened. You would have think they would have learned something after extinction rebellion.

 

In any movement there will be people with different views and opinions. 
 

There is IMO a difference between a large corporate such as SKY getting all over BLM as though it is the best thing since BLT. Than someone hearing the message ‘black lives matter’ and that resonating. 
 

I would be amazed if the majority of people who argued against BLM differentiated between that and blm. A few like Miami did. But I doubt the lad in Burnley who flew the plane over the Etihad was overly concerned about the politics of the West Bank. 

[Ani]

39 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Exactly mate, like I said re Sutcliffe being a decent lorry driver....BUT

Like He gave a lot of money to building Bristol but ...... ? 😎😁

Edited July 2, 2020 by Ani
Added smilies.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, miamiwhite said:

For the record I was on about BLMuk, that's if you or your chum can even read it correctly. He changed the record as always to America 

Sorry mate but I don't see that... This thread is titled BLM & in neither your first post, & then your second directed at me, did you say you were talking about BLMuk exclusively. So what exactly am I not reading correctly? Many of the players and clubs would also have been supporting the American movement. 

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Like He gave a lot of money to building Bristol but ...... ? 😎😁

Sutty built Bristol ? First I've heard of that pal 😂😂😂

[Ani]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Sutty built Bristol ? First I've heard of that pal 😂😂😂

Bingley’s finest was multi talented. 

[miamiwhite]

17 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Sorry mate but I don't see that... This thread is titled BLM & in neither your first post, & then your second directed at me, did you say you were talking about BLMuk exclusively. So what exactly am I not reading correctly? Many of the players and clubs would also have been supporting the American movement. 

I meant the other week when we were chatting re events in Glasgow, plus in my second post I referred to Gary Piers and Co......obviously due to their endorsement of BLMuk then retreat like an Italian tank.

The BLMuk tweet on Sunday I think it was clearly stated their intention and was roundly criticised except by one or two on here.

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

Bingley’s finest was multi talented. 

He must have been pal.....bloody good with his hands, building Bristol, driving a lorry whilst cutting up tarts for Mr Kipling's