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3 minutes ago, Spider said:

40% of F1 drivers will now be defined as racist.

 

By Lewis Hamilton

is he anti-capitalism as well?

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2 hours ago, Spider said:

40% of F1 drivers will now be defined as racist.

 

Will they? I've not seen any articles criticising them but maybe I'm not looking hard enough. 

Thought it was done quite nicely today.. good to see some choosing just to have end racism messages & others supporting BLM who wanted to. Felt pretty inclusive.

Sure you'll get a few trolls on Twitter spouting the race card but I don't see a situation where many folk think those who didn't kneel are racist.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/05/no-driver-will-be-criticised-if-they-dont-take-a-knee-ricciardo/

 

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1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Will they? I've not seen any articles criticising them but maybe I'm not looking hard enough. 

Thought it was done quite nicely today.. good to see some choosing just to have end racism messages & others supporting BLM who wanted to. Felt pretty inclusive.

Sure you'll get a few trolls on Twitter spouting the race card but I don't see a situation where many folk think those who didn't kneel are racist.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/05/no-driver-will-be-criticised-if-they-dont-take-a-knee-ricciardo/

 

Didn't Hamilton effectively say that they were racist if they didn't take a knee?

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4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

i am sure his rich priviliged upbringing alongside his talent made Hamilton the racing driver he is today, i doubt he even knows what its like living in a ghetto or being poor or living in poverty, I'm not blaming him, he is allowed his views, but for someone of his stature to jump on the BLM bandwagon seems a bit rich. Has he expressed these before ?  

Yeah he’s a self righteous knobber most of the time. I admire him for his talent, He’s phenomenal, and the best there is, but I just can’t take to the guy. 
 

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4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

i am sure his rich priviliged upbringing alongside his talent made Hamilton the racing driver he is today, i doubt he even knows what its like living in a ghetto or being poor or living in poverty, I'm not blaming him, he is allowed his views, but for someone of his stature to jump on the BLM bandwagon seems a bit rich. Has he expressed these before ?  

So, only poor black people who have lived in ghettos can suffer (or stand up against) racism? Just checking.

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10 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

You check, context and all that, as i stated he can have an opinion, just like everybody else, but how much will his opinion be worth.

You said it seems a bit rich for someone of his stature (rich and with a privileged upbringing) to be joining the “BLM bandwagon”. Leaving the bandwagon comments to one side, that read to me like you were saying rich people shouldn’t be able to campaign that black lives matter because they won’t have suffered the same as those in ghettos.

So, what you’re actually wanting to say is that rich people’s opinions don’t matter?

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3 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

You said it seems a bit rich for someone of his stature (rich and with a privileged upbringing) to be joining the “BLM bandwagon”. Leaving the bandwagon comments to one side, that read to me like you were saying rich people shouldn’t be able to campaign that black lives matter because they won’t have suffered the same as those in ghettos.

So, what you’re actually wanting to say is that rich people’s opinions don’t matter?

no,rich black people should fund the cause

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Maybe he shouldn't take money from companies who made parts for gas Chambers & who made uniforms for the SS whilst endorsing the pulling down of statues in this country ( the country he contributes sweet fa to in taxes)?  Its just my personal opinion. 

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4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

His opinions matter to him, some may hang off his every word, but they mean fuck all to me. 

In all honesty i find it's very easy for wealthy people to preach, it will never effect them, hence that his opinion is a bit shallow. 

“It will never effect them”. So you are saying that rich people can’t be affected by racism. I thought that was what you said first time round. 

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20 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Thats the thing, he apparently doesn't or pays very little tax in the UK, and the left will be all over him calling him a rich capatalist priviliged twat, yet he takes the knee for the BLM movement and to some on the left he will be an hero, whatever suits their agenda at the time.

Interestingly, if blm were to realise their ambitions, LH would suddenly find his bank balance decrease by a good number of zeros.

It's not unusual for him to say or do something a little controversial, but he's still magnificent at his job, and will get my support.

Charlie can do one.. :)

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Just now, Mr Grey said:

I like LH myself, fantastic driver. But I just wish sportsmen and musicians would take a back seat when it come to politics, 1: it must lose them fans, 2: it should really be about the sport or music.

Still hoping Charlie wins, fantastic driver.

Charlie won’t win a race this season. HIHF

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53 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

I like LH myself, fantastic driver. But I just wish sportsmen and musicians would take a back seat when it come to politics, 1: it must lose them fans, 2: it should really be about the sport or music.

Still hoping Charlie wins, fantastic driver.

Good points there.

Be the best at your sport and inspire others.

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3 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Didn't Hamilton effectively say that they were racist if they didn't take a knee?

Did he? What did he say? 

Like I said, maybe I'm not looking hard enough. Though I can't find anything in this that suggests he was saying those who didn't are racist - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/53302495

He even says it's quite a trivial act & isn't a solution. 

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2 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Did he? What did he say? 

Like I said, maybe I'm not looking hard enough. Though I can't find anything in this that suggests he was saying those who didn't are racist - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/53302495

He even says it's quite a trivial act & isn't a solution. 

He did put a tweet out earlier in the week which pissed off the other drivers along those lines though. 
Not sure it weakens the message if all the people taking a knee or doing so because they choose to as was the case with the drivers today. 

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3 hours ago, Mr Grey said:

What will happen with all this money, how will it be spent?

Money won't make a difference, people, education, time and effort is what's needed.

In hamiltons case, it starts with investigating why blacks dont find their way into motorsport

We are not just talking about driving, theres 1000s of other roles

He actually said, the outcome might be that we find out that they dont have any interest in motorsport

But, he thinks its worth him providing funding to find out

And if it turns out minorities do want to get involved, he wants to help them get involved

Even some of the moaners on here cant argue with that

 

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10 minutes ago, Casino said:

In hamiltons case, it starts with investigating why blacks dont find their way into motorsport

We are not just talking about driving, theres 1000s of other roles

He actually said, the outcome might be that we find out that they dont have any interest in motorsport

But, he thinks its worth him providing funding to find out

And if it turns out minorities do want to get involved, he wants to help them get involved

Even some of the moaners on here cant argue with that

 

Again that comes down to class over privilege/race 
 

I bet there’s thousands on non black kids that want to get into motorsport but their parents can’t afford it. Will he provide funding for them or just for black kids, if the latter is that not just adding to the problem? 

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