Duck Egg Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rudy said: Not seen it yet but at the time I thoughtThe FA handled it very badly but I suppose it was sort Of unprecedented ground. That’s why I think it should be a independent non footballing body dealing with these kind of issues because the FA always have an investment to protect. Yeah, that definitely comes across in the programme. 2 side issues I picked up on. Neil Warnock might be an utter c*nt but he seems to be held in high regard for all that have played for him. The Kick it out bloke on the programme. It was driving me mad who he sounded like. Close your eyes and it's Warwick Davies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 1, 2020 Members Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Duck Egg said: Yeah, that definitely comes across in the programme. 2 side issues I picked up on. Neil Warnock might be an utter c*nt but he seems to be held in high regard for all that have played for him. The Kick it out bloke on the programme. It was driving me mad who he sounded like. Close your eyes and it's Warwick Davies Mark Chapman (t’other one) was on a bbc podcast and Warnock came up , he said they were playing Newcastle, night before the game a unnamed player came to his room and said his Mam was on deaths door. Their chairman was in the hotel bar, Warnock asked to borrow his car, drove the player down to his mams bedside in London before she passed then drove back. I suspect he’s probably a nice chap but wants to play the cunt and the pantomime villain to take the focus off his team at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Are the resident "experts" even going to try and defend this ? 💣 🐟 🐠 🎏 🎣 About as successful as Jezza becoming ✡ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/black-lives-matter-has-increased-racial-tension-55-say-in-uk-poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Are the resident "experts" even going to try and defend this ? 💣 🐟 🐠 🎏 🎣 About as successful as Jezza becoming ✡ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/black-lives-matter-has-increased-racial-tension-55-say-in-uk-poll I'd agree. The whole thing was counter productive. Sowing divisions where they didn't previously exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Are the resident "experts" even going to try and defend this ? 💣 🐟 🐠 🎏 🎣 About as successful as Jezza becoming ✡ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/black-lives-matter-has-increased-racial-tension-55-say-in-uk-poll Our wokey friends can disregard public opinion because they are more intelligent and know better. Although reading it in The Guardian will probably have caused a brief shock to their lefty equilibrium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, kent_white said: I'd agree. The whole thing was counter productive. Sowing divisions where they didn't previously exist. Fuck me....must be nearly Christmas pal 👍 😉 Sending you a DM re something else of benefit to your goodself , clear your inbox please Jeremy 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, paulhanley said: Our wokey friends can disregard public opinion because they are more intelligent and know better. Although reading it in The Guardian will probably have caused a brief shock to their lefty equilibrium. I was going to entrap them and send the link via a right leaning rag, then nail them later....but just opted for the killer punch in the first round instead 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: I was going to entrap them and send the link via a right leaning rag, then nail them later....but just opted for the killer punch in the first round instead 😉 It's worth reading the Guardian sometimes just to stay in touch with just how far from the day to day reality of normal working folk in this country our lefty betters have travelled. They get the odd reminder of this once a ballot box appears but then a day or two later they carry on as if nothing happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, paulhanley said: It's worth reading the Guardian sometimes just to stay in touch with just how far from the day to day reality of normal working folk in this country our lefty betters have travelled. They get the odd reminder of this once a ballot box appears but then a day or two later they carry on as if nothing happened. They've got thick skins and tunnel vision mate. Just waiting for London Wanderer to tell me otherwise.....🐟 🐠 💣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, kent_white said: I'd agree. The whole thing was counter productive. Sowing divisions where they didn't previously exist. Aye. A different matter if the violence, wanton destruction etc hadn't come along with it. Nor the extreme politics espoused by some of its leaders. Much of that violence conducted by white individuals too. Weird world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, paulhanley said: It's worth reading the Guardian sometimes just to stay in touch with just how far from the day to day reality of normal working folk in this country our lefty betters have travelled. They get the odd reminder of this once a ballot box appears but then a day or two later they carry on as if nothing happened. I have started subscribing to the Guardian since the current lot of posh kids blagged their way into government. They remind me of how shit the Tories are and pull apart the continuous mind numbing spin we are being subjected to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Generally stopped reading the Guardian a while back, seem to have our Ed further and fourth er towards click bait nonsense in order to make some revenue Just charge folk for reading it and stop the click bait shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Are the resident "experts" even going to try and defend this ? 💣 🐟 🐠 🎏 🎣 About as successful as Jezza becoming ✡ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/black-lives-matter-has-increased-racial-tension-55-say-in-uk-poll Probably not... This was the obvious outcome. Oblivious to the left. We want a fair and balanced uk, something that has always been. BML dont, they want repercussions for the past. Something we or our parents were never involved with. Tell me what a black child growing up in the UK has less in favour then a white or Asian or any other child? Yes the UK has benefited from past but so has most countries. How far back do you go? I think the UK is and has always been one of the most accepting countrys in the world. I hear BLM have applied to be a political party... What a shock! At Least it will split a bit of the Labour count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 🤣 fucking tragic. Division, by its very nature, cuts both ways. I support BLM, do I support every event? Every spokesperson? Not really. The divergence to get some people on here to defend a position thats questioned? Id call that progress of sorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 3, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 3, 2020 no issue with the BLM message that first started, and with the knee bending to a degree - certainly prefer it to inaction the extremism that spawned from it though, all that can fuck off is that bird from oxford still training an army down the park at weekends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Interesting poll that - funny how people are commenting on it as if it's some sort of referendum result or proof of where the public stand. The reality is far more complex. In the survey only 43% of minority ethnic groups believed that BLM were sowing divisions. And 71% of Asian folk felt they had experienced discrimination - rising to 80 plus for black people. To me it shows that an issue still exists. Question is are BLM part of the solution? I don't think they are & I think in many cases they have sowed divisions. But I understand why folk in America took to the streets and continue to protest for reform. Can't find the link - but heard a good debate on the radio the other week between two people of colour. One Jamaican and one from Nigeria. Fella from Nigeria said he just hadn't experienced the discrimination BLM talk of and felt that their views generalise black people and oppose many of their family values and traditions. Thought he made some good points but he also understood why the situation in America was dire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Got some vinyl delivered this morning from Discogs, the seller had chucked me in a couple of free LP's, one was a Bert Kraempert big band double LP, the other was a BLACK & WHITE minstrel show LP, do I burn it, play it or pass it on ? 👍🏾👍🏻 Burn it you Gammon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, London Wanderer said: Interesting poll that - funny how people are commenting on it as if it's some sort of referendum result or proof of where the public stand. The reality is far more complex. In the survey only 43% of minority ethnic groups believed that BLM were sowing divisions. And 71% of Asian folk felt they had experienced discrimination - rising to 80 plus for black people. To me it shows that an issue still exists. Question is are BLM part of the solution? I don't think they are & I think in many cases they have sowed divisions. But I understand why folk in America took to the streets and continue to protest for reform. Can't find the link - but heard a good debate on the radio the other week between two people of colour. One Jamaican and one from Nigeria. Fella from Nigeria said he just hadn't experienced the discrimination BLM talk of and felt that their views generalise black people and oppose many of their family values and traditions. Thought he made some good points but he also understood why the situation in America was dire. Aye Generally BlackAfrican perform much better than Black Caribbean (and white, for education anyway) colour of skin can’t be the fundamental issue The fact that the best performing groups are Chinese and Indian supports that further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Didnt think it would take long. Crowds booing players taking the knee today at Millwall V Derby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, royal white said: Didnt think it would take long. Crowds booing players taking the knee today at Millwall V Derby Tbf you would have got 1/1000 on it happening at millwall pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Tbf you would have got 1/1000 on it happening at millwall pal True, I can see it happening at many more though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, royal white said: True, I can see it happening at many more though I agree it will happen at a lot more absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Rudy Posted December 5, 2020 Members Share Posted December 5, 2020 Well I am shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 5, 2020 Members Share Posted December 5, 2020 I was about to say let’s knock the kneeling on the head it’s losing its significance, can’t really now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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