Moderators Casino Posted December 13, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 13, 2020 14 hours ago, birch-chorley said: A Times report out talking about vaccine distribution Apparently elderly from vulnerable groups to get priority in the pecking order Hardly a sign of a systemically racist health care system surely Coronavirus vaccine: Minority groups and the very ill given priority https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-vaccine-minority-groups-and-the-very-ill-given-priority-c2nxj8862 I cant read that Are there any quotes in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Casino said: I cant read that Are there any quotes in there? I can’t copy and paste from their site either Found a few similar stories on Google... https://www.gponline.com/gps-demand-explanation-bame-omission-covid-vaccine-priority-list/article/1701950 Effectively saying that NHS authorities believe that the vaccine priority list should also consider ethnicity as a factor to determine priority. Apparently, pound for pound the virus is more deadly in the ethnic minority groups than it is white. The Times piece is basically saying this has been adopted Any road, point being it doesn’t really strike me as proof that systemic racism exists in our health service. If anything it’s the other way but I’m happy with the powers that be deciding on vulnerability, that’s because I have faith in our system Edited December 13, 2020 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 13, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 13, 2020 I asked as van tamm was directly asked if bames would be prioritised He said not and said ethnicity isnt a factor Other than the bame community tend to have more instances of comorbidities than others Meaning those bames at higher risk would get picked up anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Well stone me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Awful racially motivated attack in Edinburgh the other day. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/17-year-old-edinburgh-student-19447955.amp Scumbags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 55 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Awful racially motivated attack in Edinburgh the other day. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/17-year-old-edinburgh-student-19447955.amp Scumbags. Yes, shocking isn't it ? Have they given any further info or caught anyone yet ? This happened the other day too, wasn't sure if you saw it ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18934255.amp/?__twitter_impression=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 hours ago, gonzo said: Well stone me So pretty much what many (bar the obvious few) have been saying on here. Who’d of thunk it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 hours ago, London Wanderer said: Awful racially motivated attack in Edinburgh the other day. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/17-year-old-edinburgh-student-19447955.amp Scumbags. Happens all to often around the country with all races involved. Maybe they’ve not seen the kneeling, I’m sure this wouldn’t of happened if they had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 So sad and really brings it home when one of your mates posts summat like this on social media. Can’t remember if it’s his parents or grandparents are from India. He’s going about his business with his two young daughters and faces being aggressively called a P*ki c*nt..... In this day and age one does not expect to be called something I’ve not been called in god knows how long, and be told to go back where I came from, when doing the recycling at supermarket. If I wasn’t a father, todays outcome would have been very very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Yes, shocking isn't it ? Have they given any further info or caught anyone yet ? This happened the other day too, wasn't sure if you saw it ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18934255.amp/?__twitter_impression=true Not heard anything as of yet. Appealing for witnesses. Fuck me those charges are shocking... What's even worse is the time they will spend behind bars for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, London Wanderer said: Not heard anything as of yet. Appealing for witnesses. Fuck me those charges are shocking... What's even worse is the time they will spend behind bars for it. Sorry fella, have I read this right......you're more bothered about the time those beasts will spend behind bars ? Surely I've read it wrong and you're more concerned about the victims ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, royal white said: Maybe they’ve not seen the kneeling, I’m sure this wouldn’t of happened if they had 😆 I don't think players taking the knee have ever claimed it was a solution in itself. Aye happens on both sides for sure. Too much division & a wider focus is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, miamiwhite said: Sorry fella, have I read this right......you're more bothered about the time those beasts will spend behind bars ? Surely I've read it wrong and you're more concerned about the victims ? Course I'm concerned about the victims. Those scum being behind bars for longer is all about proper justice for the victims & their families. Soft sentencing is an insult to the victims lives, what they've been through and their future. I'm all for tackling root causes of crime & rehabilitation... But when it comes to these fuckers I think we're too soft. No victim should have to see their perpetrator walking the streets in their area again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Course I'm concerned about the victims. Those scum being behind bars for longer is all about proper justice for the victims & their families. Soft sentencing is an insult to the victims lives, what they've been through and their future. I'm all for tackling root causes of crime & rehabilitation... But when it comes to these fuckers I think we're too soft. No victim should have to see their perpetrator walking the streets in their area again. Thank god for that. At first I thought you wanted them to spend no time behind bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Thank god for that. At first I thought you wanted them to spend no time behind bars. Just re-read it & can see how it could have sounded that way 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Just re-read it & can see how it could have sounded that way 😆 I know pal, that's what I thought at first 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 One thing I've noticed after the boxing this weekend is just how many people (not just off here btw) who are against the taking of the knee also don't like Anthony Joshua, Lewis Hamilton or Amir Khan but manage to come up with random reasons not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: AJ overrated in a shite heavyweight division, I think Fury will do him, and that's fuck all to do with colour. Although it is the Heavyweight division and it only takes one big punch. What i noticed over the weekend, over various social media, was how many wanted AJ to get battered on Saturday night. Very odd. JFTR I also think Fury will take him to the cleaners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I'm not sure Joshua is a great example - 70,000 people would turn up to see him fight a broom, with a million more paying £25 for the PPV. Doesn't suggest racism. I think social media being against him is the general reaction you'll see when people take against someone being hyped up. Liking Joshua and thinking he's the best heavyweight in the world is for casuals, whereas real boxing fans know Fury takes him to school etc. Khan though, would not have gotten half the shit he did from the people of Bolton if he was a white lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) Maybe, and maybe it is just a coincidence. Edit: Just to clarify, I wasn't referring to posts of random people on social media, I was referring to people I know. Edited December 14, 2020 by DazBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 14, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: I think you maybe reading to much into it, it seems we are consumed by social media and racial tensions, strange really, in probably the most tolerant country in the world. Lots of people (including some on here) don't like us being "probably the most tolerant country in the world". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 18 hours ago, royal white said: So pretty much what many (bar the obvious few) have been saying on here. Who’d of thunk it I think if your read the article I posted it said as much but in a less click bait fashion. It was also reference in many posts re the fans, mine included. The fact that you choose to ignore any nuance in a discussion isn't mine or anyone else's fault - its also typical of online discussion forums in general to be fair. Not everything is cut and dried, does this change my stance about calling out those who boo? Nope, and if you think this is done by not considering other views, again thats on you, not me. Obvious few indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, DazBob said: One thing I've noticed after the boxing this weekend is just how many people (not just off here btw) who are against the taking of the knee also don't like Anthony Joshua, Lewis Hamilton or Amir Khan but manage to come up with random reasons not to. I know lots of folk like that, but they were also big fans of Naz, Benn, Bruno, Eubank and are massive fans of other black boxers. I’m not sure why you’re trying to point out? Edited December 14, 2020 by royal white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Mr Grey said: So you agree we are a very tolerant country?, surely that's something to be celebrated, maybe if we concentrated on the positive and good things we do as a country regarding race, we all might start getting on better. That's the same with climate change, let's big up what we do and what we have achieved instead of being all negative. I think we do on the whole which is why something like Millwall became such a big news story. The UK is a great, secular and tolerant nation overall, we have an weird case of exceptionalism that if you question some accuse you of trying to run the country down. Lots to applaud, lots to fix as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: I think if your read the article I posted it said as much but in a less click bait fashion. It was also reference in many posts re the fans, mine included. The fact that you choose to ignore any nuance in a discussion isn't mine or anyone else's fault - its also typical of online discussion forums in general to be fair. Not everything is cut and dried, does this change my stance about calling out those who boo? Nope, and if you think this is done by not considering other views, again thats on you, not me. Obvious few indeed. Not sure what article you posted but many on here have said go for the linked arms, you know the stance that’s doesn’t cause any problems. For some reason you seem to want to stick with the kneeling which is causing problems. I think that says more about you than anyone else. With regards to ignoring posts, did you get round to posting them ONS stats that BC has repeatedly asked for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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