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11 minutes ago, royal white said:

Weird that, put on tonight’s football. PSG first, all players kneeling some with their fists clenched, curious why I looked on Neymars twitter. BLM poster. Game was shit so watched city, players kneeling and BLM banner in the ground, I now google why players kneel at football, guess what? numerous links referencing BLM. Sod it I’ll have a look on the BLM website see what it’s all about. What do I see? Loads of anti white shite. Concerned as to why players from my team are supporting this organisation I go to the club web page hoping for some direction. Nothing. 
 

Yep I’m glad it’s clear and everyone that doesn’t know what it’s about is either lazy, ignorant or racist.

This stream-of-consciousness bullshit goes straight into the 'Ignorant' pile. Insightful though. Have you tried emailing the club to ask why they're "supporting" these things you think they're supporting?

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8 minutes ago, Cheese said:

This stream-of-consciousness bullshit goes straight into the 'Ignorant' pile. Insightful though. Have you tried emailing the club to ask why they're "supporting" these things you think they're supporting?

No I wrote a letter.
You’d think a statement on the club site would be easier instead of getting countless e mails/letters 

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3 minutes ago, royal white said:

No I wrote a letter.
You’d think a statement on the club site would be easier instead of getting countless e mails/letters 

My bad, the club have mentioned taking the knee and how it supports BLM. 
 

Good job everything is clear though and people are just lazy/ignorant/racist 

 

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2020/june/one-club-one-community-one-town--how-bwfc-and-bwct-are-supporting-our-bolton/

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1 minute ago, royal white said:

No I wrote a letter.
You’d think a statement on the club site would be easier instead of getting countless e mails/letters 

A statement saying what?

"Our players might take the knee, but they might not, but if they do it's not because they support BLM, even though they might, but they probably don't support vandalism or graffiti or shouting, but they might, and if they don't take the knee they're not racist, although we can't categorically rule that out either. Enjoy the game."

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Just now, Cheese said:

A statement saying what?

"Our players might take the knee, but they might not, but if they do it's not because they support BLM, even though they might, but they probably don't support vandalism or graffiti or shouting, but they might, and if they don't take the knee they're not racist, although we can't categorically rule that out either. Enjoy the game."

“We don’t support BLM, the taking of the knee is in support of all races and religions”. 
 

Probably a bit late now though, see link above 

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6 hours ago, royal white said:

Weird that, put on tonight’s football. PSG first, all players kneeling some with their fists clenched, curious why I looked on Neymars twitter. BLM poster. Game was shit so watched city, players kneeling and BLM banner in the ground, I now google why players kneel at football, guess what? numerous links referencing BLM. Sod it I’ll have a look on the BLM website see what it’s all about. What do I see? Loads of anti white shite. Concerned as to why players from my team are supporting this organisation I go to the club web page hoping for some direction. Nothing. 
 

Yep I’m glad it’s clear and everyone that doesn’t know what it’s about is either lazy, ignorant or racist.

 

Blm is about how people of African descent are the only race to live through oppression and slavery. 

They don't go to the same schools as white children or have the same opportunities. Hamilton and Joshua are examples of this.

Even though the black population of the UK is about 3% they argue they are not represented enough, especially in TV and job opportunity. We now have people getting jobs because of the colour of their skin.

They are well represented in UK prisons though, 12% infact. This is because the police and prosecution are racist and not because they committed an offence.

Them rap songs and street talk can only be said of you're black. It's racist if a white person repeats them words, yet it's free for everyone to hear. A white person can not call a black person "black", it stops football matches.

Special treatment they demand doesn't exist and the only thing it has done is cause division. 

 

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2 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Blm is about how people of African descent are the only race to live through oppression and slavery. 

They don't go to the same schools as white children or have the same opportunities. Hamilton and Joshua are examples of this.

Even though the black population of the UK is about 3% they argue they are not represented enough, especially in TV and job opportunity. We now have people getting jobs because of the colour of their skin.

They are well represented in UK prisons though, 12% infact. This is because the police and prosecution are racist and not because they committed an offence.

Them rap songs and street talk can only be said of you're black. It's racist if a white person repeats them words, yet it's free for everyone to hear. A white person can not call a black person "black", it stops football matches.

Special treatment they demand doesn't exist and the only thing it has done has caused division. 

 

The end game is that, amongst other things, BLM want 'their people' to be treated differently in the eyes of the law (i.e. more leniently than every other fucker). Get ready for the barrage about 'stop and search' etc. from the usual bunch of wets on here.

If they were to achieve this, where do you think it would lead? A building up of resentment within the 90 odd per cent majority leading to an eventual explosion? Surely not? Too many woke snowflakes amongst them for that to happen surely?

The guilt ridden woke lot are stoking racial tensions by continually pushing this stuff and not in any way laying the foundations for a more just society.

As Birch has continually said, the UK is one of the most accepting and integrated societies on Earth or are all those trying to float across the English Channel to get there woefully deluded?

Black lives do matter as do white, yellow, red and any other colour you can think of. This is all being massively overblown by the outraged society, the social media generation and the gutter press who must have been salivating at the prospect of getting stuck into Millwall without one iota of consideration about what the booing might actually be about.

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6 hours ago, Cheese said:

I'll save you some time....

Lazy - Because they're infuriated by players taking the knee, but can't be bothered finding out why they're actually doing it.

Ignorant - Because they know why players are taking the knee, but refuse to believe the reasons given

 

Or theyre pissed off footballers are taking it up on themselves to display support for the recent movement which has been hijacked by far left groups and has included a summer of destruction.

Maybe they dont like the fact the gesture continues to create divide on the issue when in their own personal lives its as multicultural as you get down then there? 

All one big community, a masively diverse mob of lads that have travelled the country together, best mates, family members, mixed race familes etc, all one big strong community that have a reputation for just that. Black, white, indian whatever theyre all together. They support black lives every single day and vice versa. 

They go to the match and youve got players that far from detached from any life struggles making gestures, supporting a movement that for them simply isnt there.

Youll say its ignorant to think like that,but its really not. Its life.

 

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7 hours ago, Cheese said:

This stream-of-consciousness bullshit goes straight into the 'Ignorant' pile. Insightful though. Have you tried Writing to the club to ask why they're "supporting" these things you think they're supporting?

EFA

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1 minute ago, bolty58 said:

Probably time for a poll? I vote 'no'.

Your opinion doesn’t count remember. Nor does mine. Just a select few superior beings on here govern and decide.  One will be along shortly to opine 

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58 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

So are we still all racists then If we don’t like the taking of the knee gesture? Save me reading back through?

Why is that you do not like taking the knee gesture ? 
Because it supports BLM ? 
Because it is a part of an anti discrimination campaign ? 
You do not like people kneeling ?  (at my age it is more the standing up than the kneeling that is the issue) 

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3 minutes ago, Ani said:

Why is that you do not like taking the knee gesture ? 
Because it supports BLM ? 
Because it is a part of an anti discrimination campaign ? 
You do not like people kneeling ?  (at my age it is more the standing up than the kneeling that is the issue) 

I rightly or wrongly associate it with very unpleasant scenes earlier this year and I also saw, as did many, the mission statement on the BLM website. Those views haven’t changed they have just removed it from the public eye. I think certain people were very quick to associate themselves with the BLM movement without understanding what they were about. Which later became clear and they should have backed away.
 

also kneeling is a sign of subservience is it not? Would appear to be a strange thing to do. 
 

im all for booting racism out of society. Discrimination has no place in any form whatsoever in the modern world. 
 

but as I’ve been told on here my viewpoint is wrong, doesn’t matter and means I’m a racist. So I’m a racist. Simple
 

 

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4 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I rightly or wrongly associate it with very unpleasant scenes earlier this year and I also saw, as did many, the mission statement on the BLM website. Those views haven’t changed they have just removed it from the public eye. I think certain people were very quick to associate themselves with the BLM movement without understanding what they were about. Which later became clear and they should have backed away.
 

also kneeling is a sign of subservience is it not? Would appear to be a strange thing to do. 
 

im all for booting racism out of society. Discrimination has no place in any form whatsoever in the modern world. 
 

but as I’ve been told on here my viewpoint is wrong, doesn’t matter and means I’m a racist. So I’m a racist. Simple
 

 

If people’s genuine reason for opposing taking a knee is related to BLM not sure how that can be racist. 
 

Do I think that some people (not you) will use any excuse not to support an anti discrimination campaign. 100% they will. Too political, too frequent , stuffed down our throats, millionaire footballers preaching etc etc. Let’s be honest some people just do not like darkies do they ? Or gay folk ? Or anyone foreign ? Or Muslims ? In fact anyone different. 

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42 minutes ago, Ani said:

If people’s genuine reason for opposing taking a knee is related to BLM not sure how that can be racist. 
 

Do I think that some people (not you) will use any excuse not to support an anti discrimination campaign. 100% they will. Too political, too frequent , stuffed down our throats, millionaire footballers preaching etc etc. Let’s be honest some people just do not like darkies do they ? Or gay folk ? Or anyone foreign ? Or Muslims ? In fact anyone different. 

Of course, plenty people are racist and that needs to be removed from society 

The BLM U.K. website (no affiliation to the US one) only seems to talk about White vs Non White racism 

I’d like to know their views on the racial discrimination against White Gypsies and white Jews

Seems nobody cares about racism towards Gypsies (according to the Guardian), however we know that our Jewish compatriots have received a lot of racial abuse recently from many people on the far left of the political spectrum, many of which  will be ardent supporters of BLM I’m sure 

Is it really about ending all racists abuse or is it more selective than that based solely on skin colour? 

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58 minutes ago, Ani said:

If people’s genuine reason for opposing taking a knee is related to BLM not sure how that can be racist. 
 

Do I think that some people (not you) will use any excuse not to support an anti discrimination campaign. 100% they will. Too political, too frequent , stuffed down our throats, millionaire footballers preaching etc etc. Let’s be honest some people just do not like darkies do they ? Or gay folk ? Or anyone foreign ? Or Muslims ? In fact anyone different. 

Of course there will be people who fit that description. Will there have been someone at millwall who fits that? Probably. Will there be people at the unibol who fit that also? Probably. 

what folk have tried to do on here is explain why in their own words they disagree with it. It’s been shot down by certain posters. 
 

is it ok to just call people racist because they happen to not agree with the taking of the knee? Absolutely not. And that’s the state of play on this board. The racist tag is banded about far too easily on here without any foundation other than holding a different opinion. 

I disagree with the taking of the knee  but would I boo it? No  would I turn my back or anything like that? No  

 

 

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2 hours ago, Escobarp said:

I rightly or wrongly associate it with very unpleasant scenes earlier this year and I also saw, as did many, the mission statement on the BLM website. Those views haven’t changed they have just removed it from the public eye. I think certain people were very quick to associate themselves with the BLM movement without understanding what they were about. Which later became clear and they should have backed away.
 

also kneeling is a sign of subservience is it not? Would appear to be a strange thing to do. 
 

im all for booting racism out of society. Discrimination has no place in any form whatsoever in the modern world. 
 

but as I’ve been told on here my viewpoint is wrong, doesn’t matter and means I’m a racist. So I’m a racist. Simple
 

 

Yeah fuck off ya racist jock cunt 😜

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