Escobarp Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: But we openly trade with companies who exploit & profit from their prison system.... & I disagree that we have no issues here. It's just not on the same scale as the U.S. But it's better being heard by folk who've experienced it - rather than it coming from people like me. Folk like Akala are well worth a watch or read. But I've said that before. We all buy things from companies and corporations that will have questionable ethics. Even you will. we don’t know the inner workings of these businesses and never will. So unless you are living from an allotment in a far flung off grid corner of the world with no interaction with humanity then you will be buying from companies like this. That’s a fact mate. I have never said we don’t have issues relating to racism. I’ve seen as we all have examples of it on social media. We also have an issue of racism against white people from minorities I would say. But that gets no air time. As it’s not fashionable. We don’t have the scale of issues of America. We don’t live in America. So we should’nt be using their challenges as a blueprint for ours as they aren’t comparable. Not even close. sooner people realise this and stop virtue signaling (not you) then the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: We all buy things from companies and corporations that will have questionable ethics. Even you will. we don’t know the inner workings of these businesses and never will. So unless you are living from an allotment in a far flung off grid corner of the world with no interaction with humanity then you will be buying from companies like this. That’s a fact mate. I have never said we don’t have issues relating to racism. I’ve seen as we all have examples of it on social media. We also have an issue of racism against white people from minorities I would say. But that gets no air time. As it’s not fashionable. We don’t have the scale of issues of America. We don’t live in America. So we should’nt be using their challenges as a blueprint for ours as they aren’t comparable. Not even close. sooner people realise this and stop virtue signaling (not you) then the better. Aye it's a minefield & it's impossible to navigate it... But we could be stricter with some companies & not include those who operate in the US prison system in the big trade deals. Agree that racism to white people is all too often ignored & it's damaging to the cause to ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Escobarp said: Shame we don’t have any men of colour on here and we are all just white middle aged men. Would be nice to add some diversity to our group 😁 How do you know we don't? Have you stereotyped everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 24, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: How do you know we don't? Have you stereotyped everyone? Its not always easy to put across irony and sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 45 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: How do you know we don't? Have you stereotyped everyone? 38 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Its not always easy to put across irony and sarcasm. It was a joke as TMGJ has highlighted. Read back @athywhite1958 on an encounter between NiC and @Rudy and it will become more apparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I was being flippant, this site is not foe being serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: I was being flippant, this site is not foe being serious 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 24, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Escobarp said: Shame we don’t have any men of colour on here and we are all just white middle aged men. Would be nice to add some diversity to our group 😁 Give Miami another hour on the sunbed & jobs sorted 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Give Miami another hour on the sunbed & jobs sorted 😁 I try not to get involved in politics or religion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 24, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 minute ago, athywhite1958 said: I try not to get involved in politics or religion Very wise 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Very wise 😊 Too owd and set in my ways for that shit Ronnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, London Wanderer said: I didn't say it was.... This article has some decent examples of what the definition applies to - https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/613324/ I used the word systemic racism in the last post... You can find it everywhere in America - we've got much better - but still work to do. Rewind sir....you said systematic racism exists here and in the US.....make your mind up fella LW memo to oneself - please remember what was posted whilst on the lash 🥂😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Give Miami another hour on the sunbed & jobs sorted 😁 Shut it you white trash 😉👊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Escobarp said: Shame we don’t have any men of colour on here and we are all just white middle aged men. Would be nice to add some diversity to our group 😁 About 15 years ago - I pretended I was black on here (or maybe rivals) for a while just to shut some racists up. Incredible how quickly they slink off when they get called out. And that's not that long ago for people to be being outwardly racist on a football forum if you think about it. Actually does that mean I was basically 'digitally blackfacing' or was I ok to identify however I liked and therefore being a woke pioneer? Fuck knows anymore - it's all too confusing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted July 24, 2020 Members Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Escobarp said: It was a joke as TMGJ has highlighted. Read back @athywhite1958 on an encounter between NiC and @Rudy and it will become more apparent. Proud white middle aged mon me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, Rudy said: Proud white middle aged mon me White supremist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted July 24, 2020 Members Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: White supremist! White Power!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 24, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, athywhite1958 said: I was being flippant, this site is not foe being serious I did wonder, which illustrates my point. Is there a proper "sarcy" emoji? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 working today for once thro this crap , had to wait for a job at dinner time, pillock, J VINE on radio 2 did a bit about how we should be ashamed of our past with slavery had a Nigerean lass talking about her great grand father about how proud she was that he protected her people but sold people into slavery mainly to Brazil and Cuba and only died in the last century Next guest was a British apologist ashamed of her ancestry due to slavery in Africa from the Indian sub continent. Her sister had given her a photo album of her grandad with slaves building railways plus photos of Colson with her family Edward Colson died in 1721 the first publishable photoghraphs appeared in 1896 the first railway ran from Manchester to Liverpool in 1830 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Coulson and the slave trade is a massive part of Black British history. Undeniably abhorrent as it was at the time - he's the reason a lot of people were born here. In a country that the vast majority of BAME British people take some pride in. We somehow have to get the two of those things to reconcile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said: working today for once thro this crap , had to wait for a job at dinner time, pillock, J VINE on radio 2 did a bit about how we should be ashamed of our past with slavery had a Nigerean lass talking about her great grand father about how proud she was that he protected her people but sold people into slavery mainly to Brazil and Cuba and only died in the last century Next guest was a British apologist ashamed of her ancestry due to slavery in Africa from the Indian sub continent. Her sister had given her a photo album of her grandad with slaves building railways plus photos of Colson with her family Edward Colson died in 1721 the first publishable photoghraphs appeared in 1896 the first railway ran from Manchester to Liverpool in 1830 The Colson photo is obviously bollocks. The others are entirely possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 24, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, kent_white said: Coulson and the slave trade is a massive part of Black British history. Undeniably abhorrent as it was at the time - he's the reason a lot of people were born here. In a country that the vast majority of BAME British people take some pride in. We somehow have to get the two of those things to reconcile. Yep. Found out only last week that my Gran who was born in Glasgow, was from a family that went to Scotland from Ireland. My nan, on the other hand was born in Levenshulme, to Welsh parents. Would be odd for me to start kicking off about activities carried out many decades ago. Wrong as they may have been, they arguably shaped my existence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 I'm on the next flight 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, kent_white said: Coulson and the slave trade is a massive part of Black British history. Undeniably abhorrent as it was at the time - he's the reason a lot of people were born here. In a country that the vast majority of BAME British people take some pride in. We somehow have to get the two of those things to reconcile. Yep. If it wasn’t for him and the empire, we’d all be white, ginger and eating turnips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, Boby Brno said: Yep. If it wasn’t for him and the empire, we’d all be white, ginger and eating turnips. Spider then basically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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