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3 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Like I said in the other thread, it's what, 30 secs and ultimately up to the players. Takes longer to pour a pint, imagine letting that ruin your day

If its such a frivolous act then why bother with it.

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1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

I ain't going back until we are fully back up and running, 2k fans is a fucking joke anyway, like a bunch of happy clappers.

I'm glad its starting back in some capacity, hopefully last month of season we may get back to full pelt, and more importantly back on aways next season.

Like I said other day if I get selected great if not I won’t lose sleep

And hopefully this knee farce will be over by then 

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2 minutes ago, jules_darby said:

Maybe ask the players that have taken the knee if it’s worked

Ask away. How many were even born in the 80s and weren't subject to the abuse that was prevalent?

The ones that occasionally receive abuse- what level of reporting and support is there now. 

Frankly your suggestion that nothing has worked is ridiculous. Utterly. 

Seems they are protesting about a wider issue, particularly in America. In which case fine, but do it away from the game please.

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2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Ask away. How many were even born in the 80s and weren't subject to the abuse that was prevalent?

The ones that occasionally receive abuse- what level of reporting and support is there now. 

Frankly your suggestion that nothing has worked is ridiculous. Utterly. 

Seems they are protesting about a wider issue, particularly in America. In which case fine, but do it away from the game please.

Worked enough rather than had no effect at all

Look online and you’ll see plenty of critique for Kick it out from ex players 🤷🏽‍♂️

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5 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

The players feel it's worthwhile?

Given Romeo's comments after the match, he certainly does

Theyd be frightened to death of the grief junkie faux outrage if they spoke out against.

Les Ferdinand for one says it should stop. Plenty of players across Europe, F1 drivers etc all havent participated.

 

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1 minute ago, jmjhb said:

For those moaning about politics in football, I presume you won't be going to a gig ever again then?

 

 

Music gig?

Gave up on them years ago, strangely because I wanted to listen to music, not some expletive laden rant by someone looking to raise their popularity (income).

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I wasn't going to the football in the 80's when I believe it was much worse.

What happened to all the racists? Did they just stop going to the football or did they just stop being racist as they got older and wiser? Or are they still racist but just keep a lid on it nowadays?

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3 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

For those moaning about politics in football, I presume you won't be going to a gig ever again then?

 

 

Been mentioned before, same goes, I go to a gig to listen to a band/singers music, not a serman on their politics. 

Just stay away from U2 gigs and Saint fucking Bono.

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1 minute ago, kent_white said:

I wasn't going to the football in the 80's when I believe it was much worse.

What happened to all the racists? Did they just stop going to the football or did they just stop being racist as they got older and wiser? Or are they still racist but just keep a lid on it nowadays?

Most have probably died and those who haven’t have probably wised up.

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4 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

Is age an issue here? 

Hmm. Maybe not thinking about it. You'd expect more younguns to support BLM but at Millwall the knuckledraggers are likely to be a spread of ages

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1 minute ago, jules_darby said:

Worked enough rather than had no effect at all

Look online and you’ll see plenty of critique for Kick it out from ex players 🤷🏽‍♂️

I'm sure some will, never please everyone. 

Doesn't mean its not been effective, not does it mean improvements can't be made.

As a youngster I hated some of the chants and abuse. Players had no outlet and had to suck it up.

Totally different now. Hugely so, and for me a reason why crowds grew from where they were.

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13 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I wasn't going to the football in the 80's when I believe it was much worse.

What happened to all the racists? Did they just stop going to the football or did they just stop being racist as they got older and wiser? Or are they still racist but just keep a lid on it nowadays?

Think society in general has become a lot less racist, which is a great thing 

Let’s not forget, in the 80’s the % of BAME would have been under 4% in the U.K., now it’s 14%. BAME make up over 20% of people in the younger age groups. As a group, non whites are no longer a very small minority, they are part and parcel of British life. As a society we have become much more multicultural in the last 30 years (half of all the BAME groups weren’t born here and have emigrated here over the past few decades) 

Again, all good things, partly the reason why I don’t feel like we should be beating ourselves up that our system is unfair to anyone who isn’t white 

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Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

Most have probably died or wised up.

Did we have a big problem with it at Bolton as well?

I remember by Dad giving someone dogs abuse for calling Michael Brown a 'stupid coon' or words to that effect when I was at my first ever game in the Lever End.

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7 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

Is age an issue here? 

Yes, certainly. 

5 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I wasn't going to the football in the 80's when I believe it was much worse.

What happened to all the racists? Did they just stop going to the football or did they just stop being racist as they got older and wiser? Or are they still racist but just keep a lid on it nowadays?

Totally and utterly different experience with respect to abuse.

Maybe poorer is some regards (terracing and sound).

No doubt some now keep a lid on it, but that in itself is an achievement. In time behaviour has changed because of a lot of work from relevant parties.

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4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Yes, certainly. 

Totally and utterly different experience with respect to abuse.

Maybe poorer is some regards (terracing and sound).

No doubt some now keep a lid on it, but that in itself is an achievement. In time behaviour has changed because of a lot of work from relevant parties.

So what was the average age of the people booing?

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7 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Did we have a big problem with it at Bolton as well?

I remember by Dad giving someone dogs abuse for calling Michael Brown a 'stupid coon' or words to that effect when I was at my first ever game in the Lever End.

As big as anywhere else from my memory as a kid

Wasn’t too long ago I had strong words with a Bolton fan who was racially abusing and bullying a young steward at a London away. Charlton I think it was.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I wasn't going to the football in the 80's when I believe it was much worse.

What happened to all the racists? Did they just stop going to the football or did they just stop being racist as they got older and wiser? Or are they still racist but just keep a lid on it nowadays?

It was bad. Fans used to wait for a black player to touch the ball and then let rip. It was if they'd waited all week to vent that steam. We're talking of a time when 95+% of players were white. As time evolved though, it naturally and thankfully died off.    

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20 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Did we have a big problem with it at Bolton as well?

I remember by Dad giving someone dogs abuse for calling Michael Brown a 'stupid coon' or words to that effect when I was at my first ever game in the Lever End.

I’d not say we had a big problem, was usually just the odd knob head who used it to put opposition players off. Although I do remember early 70s the lever end singing zigger zagger zigger, think again folk who sang it probably weren’t all racist and was used as a tactic to put the good black players off their game. 

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Speaking of abuse by Bolton fans

Shrewsbury away - that first game of the season one. When was it 91 maybe?

Anyway I was about 12.

Pissed Bolton fans abusing one of their mates, “he’s a Manc cunt” etc...gesturing to a copper “arrest him officer he’s a Manc”.

I had no clue what that meant, assumed it was some terrible thing (yea it is I know)

I turn to my Dad “what’s a Manc Dad?”

Imagine my face when he replied “you’re one son” without further explanation :D

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