Site Supporter Steejay 362 Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 13 minutes ago, desperado said: I don’t disagree with the essence of your post, in that IE has to be accountable for results and he needs to address some of the failings so far. However taking a statement at a time I will challenge you on some of them; - correct some of his mistakes by playing to the strengths of the team and using the better players in his squad, in their natural positions where possible Now I’m sorry despite IE faults and mistakes this season I’d still trust his and his coaching teams opinion and understanding of his players above fans on twatter and wandersways . Despite what some social media loons think, these are professional coaches working with the players everyday. They will know so much more about the players, their qualities, their personal circumstances, how they’ve trained, what mental/ physical state they are in, how they’ve performed in certain drills, how they’re suited tactical formations etc etc and so much more. If it had been up to fan opinion Santos would have been fired off after 2 games. - improving the standard of his signings Yes absolutely and he is fully on with this - And when something's obviously not working, to be a bit more flexible, a bit quicker than he has so far. I’m partly in agreement with this in that he seemingly sticks with players/tactics to the detriment of the end result, the case of Crellin is a good one and this needs to be addressed. But this can be flipped to a positive, he trusts his players, he’s loyal, he’s strong minded (some say arrogant) in his beliefs and non-negotiables which the players have bought into - there’s positive signs there. Yes he’s admittedly got some things wrong, yes we are not where we should or want to be, but we have to use qualities as fans we are not very good at; trust, belief and patience. Good post but...Patience. That's a good one. 10 minutes into a game and people are screeching to get him sacked unless we're 5 up. So predictable - every fooking game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket 1,569 Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 The problem is, that despite him working with them each day, there have been times when they seem strange to each other and uncomfortable with the roles given. The wing back situation being the case in point. We can all see the issues at times, and despite whatever the coaches see during training, they dont appear to be able to fulfil the role where and when it matters. That ultimately is where they will be judged. Clearly, the window needs to be used and requisite players in, and I'm not interested in getting shut, but improvements need to be made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Traf 2,625 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Training means nothing, they look better than they are because they're playing against each other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
masi 51 37 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Just read George Thomason wiki....Was at Blackpool as a kid/youth played left back. Natural left foot, comfortable on the ball, run all day Maybe we had a natural lwb all season after all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Traf 2,625 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Agreed. I think I said similar somewhere. Naturally left sided, loves a tackle and is a decent passer/crosser. Still raw, but can't be worse than the other half dozen to have played there this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radcliffewhite1 650 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Personally I’ve seen enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Grey 742 Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Personally I’ve seen enough Seasons dead now, unless they win around 66% of games, and that looks nowhere near like happening, we will probably make a late run for the play-offs, which will get us all excited for next season..... in fact I'd take that now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radcliffewhite1 650 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Seasons dead now, unless they win around 66% of games, and that looks nowhere near like happening, we will probably make a late run for the play-offs, which will get us all excited for next season..... in fact I'd take that now. I would love to eat my words and get promotion but we simply ain’t kicking on with this guy, a strong finish could be the decider when it comes to renewing tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Grey 742 Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: I would love to eat my words and get promotion but we simply ain’t kicking on with this guy, a strong finish could be the decider when it comes to renewing tbh The whole covid thing, us starting again in L2, it's all a bit of a hit show really, we need fans back, and I'm with you, another season in L2 will see sales drop, however did Shazza say that there will be something in place if fans are not allowed back this season, if so and depending what the deal is, could be 5k crowds next season.... grim! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis Fogarty 50 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 We could limp into the playoffs if the new lads can bed in quickly and if IE realises what his best formation is, and if we get keeper cover from somewhere. If he gets Aunty Sharons backing and if there's money made available. I still think he's the man for the job somehow but there's just too many ifs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Biggish Dave 534 Posted January 16 Site Supporter Share Posted January 16 Might well be frustrating but we’ve been a basket case of a club for a few years now. I want some stability, if we sack Evatt at the end of this season, I’ll certainly not be renewing next year. Ripping up the plan every 12 months is not getting us upwardly mobile again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radcliffewhite1 650 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said: Might well be frustrating but we’ve been a basket case of a club for a few years now. I want some stability, if we sack Evatt at the end of this season, I’ll certainly not be renewing next year. Ripping up the plan every 12 months is not getting us upwardly mobile again IE seeing his contract out could mean us spending 3 years in the bottom league that simply won’t be sustainable for FV ok I may be rash but if we don’t finish strong come may he needs to go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimron 67 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 IE is a young manager and I can't see anyone currently bringing him to task. Traditionally he would be called in by the chairman on Monday morning to explain his tactics and plans, or failing that, in our case Nat would have a cup of tea and a chat with him. I remember what I was like as a manager at his age, my boss used to call me in and tell me my head was too full of theoretical bollocks, now I'm about to finish my innings I sound the same as him. In my view our managers aren't given enough support, direction and "coaching". I just think IE needs a bloody good old fashioned bollocking but there's no one to deliver it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket 1,569 Posted January 16 Site Supporter Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Biggish Dave said: Might well be frustrating but we’ve been a basket case of a club for a few years now. I want some stability, if we sack Evatt at the end of this season, I’ll certainly not be renewing next year. Ripping up the plan every 12 months is not getting us upwardly mobile again No point getting rid at end of season whatsoever. Either do it soon, or back him to do next time, with fans back and his squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casino 2,363 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Biggish Dave said: Might well be frustrating but we’ve been a basket case of a club for a few years now. I want some stability, if we sack Evatt at the end of this season, I’ll certainly not be renewing next year. Ripping up the plan every 12 months is not getting us upwardly mobile again Iamin whatever, but sacking him would be ridiculous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Burndens Bogs 516 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) When Evatt first arrived what i expected from our side was pace,agression & energy. I’ve not seen any of those atributes so far and we’ve played 23 games ffs. Truth be known, our general play so far has been a massive disappointment. Edited January 16 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desperado 155 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: What i expected from an Evatt side was pace,agression & fitness. I’ve not seen any of those atributes so far. Truth be known, our general play so far has been a massive disappointment. I agree there’s been little aggression. Pace too, although he’s addressing that this window. I’m not having fitness though, yes we may have drifted in the second half of some games, but this is more to do with poor possession/passing. We’ve fought to the end in lots of games and scored goals in 80+ minutes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Grey 742 Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, desperado said: I agree there’s been little aggression. Pace too, although he’s addressing that this window. I’m not having fitness though, yes we may have drifted in the second half of some games, but this is more to do with poor possession/passing. We’ve fought to the end in lots of games and scored goals in 80+ minutes Its a fair point, but it beggars belief we got ourselves to that stage in the first place, we do seem to be forever chasing goals, that 1st goal is crucial to us these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desperado 155 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Its a fair point, but it beggars belief we got ourselves to that stage in the first place, we do seem to be forever chasing goals, that 1st goal is crucial to us these days. Frustrating isn’t it. I bloody long to get the first (then maybe one or two others) and for another team and set of fans to feel how horrific it is to see the second half minutes ticking away when sub after sub after sub, followed by rest here, drink here, physio here, time waste here, time waste there, keeper keeping hold of the ball for 2 minutes 😤 I might try the going for a walk option next week, if we go a goal down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Grey 742 Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, desperado said: Frustrating isn’t it. I bloody long to get the first (then maybe one or two others) and for another team and set of fans to feel how horrific it is to see the second half minutes ticking away when sub after sub after sub, followed by rest here, drink here, physio here, time waste here, time waste there, keeper keeping hold of the ball for 2 minutes 😤 I might try the going for a walk option next week, if we go a goal down. It's getting to that stage.... big walk and no phone to check on the football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marple whites 105 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 If we don’t go up, so be it. give ie a chance, this season has been so far from reality if we aren’t top 7 next season then we ask questions. still half a season to go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Steejay 362 Posted January 16 Site Supporter Share Posted January 16 23 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: It's getting to that stage.... big walk wank and no phone to check on the football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marple whites 105 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 hours ago, Biggish Dave said: Might well be frustrating but we’ve been a basket case of a club for a few years now. I want some stability, if we sack Evatt at the end of this season, I’ll certainly not be renewing next year. Ripping up the plan every 12 months is not getting us upwardly mobile again Yep, stability is some way to what is needed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radcliffewhite1 650 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 25 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: It's getting to that stage.... big walk and no phone to check on the football. Definitely this everything is so fucking depressing at the moment work all week then get frustrated on Saturdays Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marple whites 105 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 13 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Definitely this everything is so fucking depressing at the moment work all week then get frustrated on Saturdays Yep defo, really hard, as Saturday is the highlight of the week and just keeps letting you down. would we have been better with crowds ? I can see glimmers of improvement........ but the whole situation in life is hard at present Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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