Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Exactly what I will be doing, did the same when then scouse cunts played that shit tune about some twat who was alone but was told he would never have to walk again on his tod! Micky makes a decent point. Not something we'll have to concern ourselves about for a while yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 6, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 6, 2020 So is Chris Wilder/Sheff Utd the new Reading this time last season? FWIW i thought we looked decent yesterday in possession, given it was everyone's debut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 The encouraging thing from yesterday I believe is there’s far more to come yet from this team and already looked half decent. Tonnes of work still to be done but that will have surprised nobody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Rizlar said: Totally agree IE as to stick with it and give him time this squad as been brought together to play to his principles of 3-5-2 . I hope he plays the same team against Crewe which will give us a further idea of improvement because last time they was way better than us. Nobody knows till an hour before KO but I'd be surprised if Crewe play anything like their "first team" given they had a tough league cup game yesterday and will be focused on their first league game in a higher division 4 days later. I've never taken the tinpot cup seriously and I'm not going to start now just because its a new manager, just another friendly as far as I'm concerned and counts for nothing, its all about avoiding injuries and then onto Forest Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, meanderson93 said: Because we have no real wingers with Politic out, the ideal would have been the ability to bring Politic on for one of the CBs and switch to a more traditional Back 4 and do either 4-4-2 with Gordon/Crawford on the left or 4-3-3 with Politic and Delfouneso wide of Doyle. Think we badly need a replacement for Politic's versatility, maybe a Championship or Prem loanee that can play as a winger/forward. That's my concern, complete lack of width. I know we have to move on from the past and I've no problem with that - but I cant remember the last time we started a season without one winger. Seriously, if anyone can think of a season in last 40 odd years we didnt have a winger let us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: He was no use on the right, but was more effectively on cutting in from the left as a wide forward. I think he's a No. 10 more than anything though. Completely agree, he's got to be more central to get the best out of him. Hill played him out of position and he didnt touch the ball for 20 minutes at a time, waiting for a pass. Scares defences to death running at the centre backs, when out wide just another wide player, not special. Difficult to see how he'd get starts under Evatt's system though, no room for him in a 3 man midfield if everyone available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 The 2 best managers in my lifetime, Rioch and Allardyce both started slowly. GMR phone in after a 2-2 draw at Chester bemoaning Bruce. 1 down at Cambridge in the cup with Sam "You dont know what you're doing" No way am I getting bent out of shape at a narrow loss in our first competitive fixture and in the Mickey mouse cup at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Bradford have drawn Lincoln at home next round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 On the BLM taking a knee thing. It was the players first chance to do it and I'm glad they did. Surely any decent person would want to show their support for their stance and to our black players in particular? If we'd been allowed in yesterday, you'd have come across as a real asshole turning your back on our players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 6 hours ago, MickyD said: Anyone thinking of not going until the “taking a knee” stops is missing an opportunity. If you feel so strongly about it; and if plenty enough others do too, everyone turning their backs on the pitch during the taking a knee will send a louder message that turning your back on the club. That’s a good idea MickyD, I think most fans understand and sympathise with the situation and what happened to George Floyd and accepted the knee bend initially but it’s now gone way beyond that and has become a political statement instead and has no place on a football pitch. It should have ended with the season not carried on into this one. Unless fans indicate that we’ll be stuck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 People are seriously considering 'turning their back' in protest? I bet none of you actually do it on match day. And if you do it'll mark you out as a massive bellend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 If it happens when we’re allowed in, that is the time for all fans to get the wall of noise up - COME ON YOU WHITES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, kent_white said: People are seriously considering 'turning their back' in protest? I bet none of you actually do it on match day. And if you do it'll mark you out as a massive bellend. I wouldn't turn my back but I wouldn't think people who did so are bellends. Everybody is entitled to an opinion - that's what diversity actually means. I do share the sentiment that the relentless woke virtue-signalling now needs to stop. If it seeks to convert people to a cause it's having the polar opposite effect. We've done it once. Enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: If that's the case, players have a choice and so do the fans, doesn't make me an arsehole, I come to watch the football, I'm not at a political rally. I may take my seat 1 minute after kick-off. Correct i bet both black & white players are embarrassed by it but dare take a stance and say enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I go to the match to get away from all the shite we have to put up with in life and have a bit of a crack. Not to see a political stance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 37 minutes ago, kent_white said: People are seriously considering 'turning their back' in protest? I bet none of you actually do it on match day. And if you do it'll mark you out as a massive bellend. Why? I've no intention of offering any support to a political organisation that's gone way beyond its initial protest roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Why? I've no intention of offering any support to a political organisation that's gone way beyond its initial protest roots. Because judging from yesterday's game the whole thing took about 5 seconds. And I don't think looking at something counts as 'offering support'. Turning your back is what's going to make things political. Just let them get on with it and hopefully they'll fuck it off in a couple of weeks. Make a big deal out of it and they'll be doing it for years as they won't be able to back down from doing it every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, 1969 said: I go to the match to get away from all the shite we have to put up with in life and have a bit of a crack. Not to see a political stance Spot on when it was kicking off months back you had the option to turn your tv over but when I’m paying my money to watch a football match I don’t want that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I hope they carry on doing it. It’s a good way to show solidarity. All racism needs to be called out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Farrelli said: I hope they carry on doing it. It’s a good way to show solidarity. All racism needs to be called out. Is the bended knee a show of Solidarity though? , I think that symbol just targets Racism against 1 particular race . Edited September 6, 2020 by dusan nikolic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Delfounso obviously felt strongly enough about it to raise a fist as well as take a knee. As a Wanderers fan why would you not want to show support for how one of our own is feeling? As a human being, why wouldn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 6, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 6, 2020 I think people are arguing that its support for a political organisation are just looking for a reason to argue against it happening I see the knee thing as support for a belief that blacks should get equal treatment, not that we should be supporting a crackpot fringe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, kent_white said: Because judging from yesterday's game the whole thing took about 5 seconds. And I don't think looking at something counts as 'offering support'. Turning your back is what's going to make things political. Just let them get on with it and hopefully they'll fuck it off in a couple of weeks. Make a big deal out of it and they'll be doing it for years as they won't be able to back down from doing it every game. Its not going away though is it. Been going on for months. I dont intend to make a big deal of it, turning a back or sitting down etc is very much the opposite. We could show ire and shout abuse or smash a few seats up but would definitely be cuntish. Frankly, if the Tory Party, Labour, Extinction rebellion or monster raving loonies were being saluted pre match they'd also get the same disrespect. Football is for fans, prefer politics left outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 So how long do we continue with it permanently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: I think people are arguing that its support for a political organisation are just looking for a reason to argue against it happening I see the knee thing as support for a belief that blacks should get equal treatment, not that we should be supporting a crackpot fringe Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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