radcliffe white Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: He might be young but he plays in a position where he's constantly running up and down the pitch, which in itself requires a lot of energy. He's just four matches into his professional careeer, and the step up from junior football to senior football takes a physical toll. He's also our only fit right-back / right wing-back so we need to make sure he doesn't pick up any niggling injuries that overplaying him might cause. Turns out it was his poor delivery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Turns out it was his poor delivery I know Evatt was unhappy with his delivery, but if that's the reason he brought him off rather than fitness, then it just seems bizarre given it meant Brockbank had to play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Turns out it was his poor delivery But who’s he delivering it to? Neither Doyle or Delfouneso are ever anywhere near the six yard box and midfield rarely gets up to support. Don’t blame the kid for others failings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Ratwhite Posted October 11, 2020 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Think Evatt specifically said he took him off because his delivery was poor. I actually thought Hickman was good first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: But who’s he delivering it to? Neither Doyle or Delfouneso are ever anywhere near the six yard box and midfield rarely gets up to support. Don’t blame the kid for others failings. Seems rash unless he was woeful (I didn’t watch) that’s what training sessions are for to improve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffer cup 07 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ratwhite said: I actually thought Hickman was good first half. You can put as many balls into the box as you like, but there only good if someone gets on the end of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, Ratwhite said: I actually thought Hickman was good first half. Me too. Hickman/Santos/Tutte were our best players first half imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ratwhite said: I actually thought Hickman was good first half. Same here, at least a lot of his crosses were getting past the first man and into the box, as basic as it sounds. What's going on in the box was the bigger concern for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, Burndens Bogs said: Me too. Hickman/Santos/Tutte were our best players first half imo. Hickman put in a shift but his delivery was very poor. Agree Santos and Tutte; Delaney and Brockbank were also good. The rest of the team were poor IMO; I know Doyle needs support but he was awful yesterday and Fonz was shocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Hickman put in a shift but his delivery was very poor. Agree Santos and Tutte; Delaney and Brockbank were also good. The rest of the team were poor IMO; I know Doyle needs support but he was awful yesterday and Fonz was shocking I agree about his poor delivery at times, but imo he was always the player most likely to get behind them and create something. A bizarre substitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughmungus Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: Me too. Hickman/Santos/Tutte were our best players first half imo. Agree 100%, Evatt’s tactics and substitutions are baffling, he is managing a team like he once played the game- one dimensional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: I agree about his poor delivery at times, but imo he was always the player most likely to get behind them and create something. A bizarre substitution. Agree about the substitution - putting Baptiste on completely changed the game and upset the back 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Never got the signing of Baptiste never rated him last time he was at the club. Just hoping Isgrove is the missing link in getting good crosses into the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 We need to give 442 a go. Doyle needs help and we need to get isgrove out wide and maybe miller up alongside Doyle. Evatt needs to Give Darcy a run out even if to replace Sarcevic. Maybe being Captain is affecting his game....Delaney is the ideal candidate or Tutte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Hickman has already shown that he can deliver a ball well (Crewe in the cup I think) and regardless of being off the money a few times, at least he was still getting in those positions and pushing Grimsby back. Mascoll was hit and miss but again, he was getting in positions and pushing them back. Subbing Hickman for Baptiste made no sense at all. It disrupted the back 3 (because Baptiste is a liability) and put Brockbank out of position - he did alright to be fair but if you think you’re not getting the delivery from Hickman then there’s not much chance that Brockbank will improve it (he’s not a wingback!!). Gordon for Mascoll was a little bit more sensible, but Gordon’s delivery is worse! The amount of times he got into good positions and then just hit the first man - Doyle must have been fuming. Still think that yesterday showed improvements in some areas (at the back) which means it wasn’t all negative. Beat Oldham and 7 points from 9 looks a lot healthier. Also, I don’t buy this “we’ve got to be beating these teams” - not because I disagree, we should be beating Grimsby at home, but IMO it’s the same for all games, we should be beating everyone in this league, there is not one game that we should be looking at and thinking that a point would be a good result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 11, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 11, 2020 Sounds to me like we need to work on delivery in training this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) kick the ball in the middle it will hit the first defender..........Kick the ball under the bottom and it will rise up in the air Landing in the box.......Jesus christ its not rocket science Edited October 11, 2020 by masi 51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRiddle Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Seems a bit harsh slagging off his replacement wing back, then hauling him off for poor delivery, when Crawford never made one telling pass in 90 minutes. The whole formation revolves around him, and his performance this week and last were shite. Its notl coincidence we have not had many shots on target. Other players, with less talent, may have had poor games too, but doesn't disguise the fact Crawford has produced nowt. Amazed people think he has been good? Suppose thats football!! Edited October 11, 2020 by JimmyRiddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Anyone else think we should have retained Joe Dodoo? Edited October 11, 2020 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted October 11, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: Anyone else thin we should have retained Joe Dodoo? Probably down to money but yes I’d have kept him and played him more central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Would be great to get Verlinden back on loan, League 2 is probably beneath him though. We need someone who can deliver from wide areas - a supply line for Doyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 11, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said: I agree about his poor delivery at times, but imo he was always the player most likely to get behind them and create something. A bizarre substitution. That's how I saw it too. If he keeps having a go and causes trouble for the fullback, then sooner or later it will come right. OK changing it, if there is something to bring on to improve things. Brockbank was decent in defence yesterday, but he's not likely to be whipping cross after cross onto Doyle's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said: Would be great to get Verlinden back on loan, League 2 is probably beneath him though. We need someone who can deliver from wide areas - a supply line for Doyle. Aye that’s exactly who we need. Someone quick with a shit final delivery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Unless a player is having an absolute nightmare then for me subbing because of poor delivery is bad imo and strikes of Keith hill approach the lad can work on that in training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 11, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) So his role is to get the ball in the box Hes not doing it And thats not reason enough to hook him? He can work on it in training and if he masters it, he might stay on for 90 Edited October 11, 2020 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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