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IE is absolutely spot on. Hes still got my full support and fwiw I’m confident that he will sort it. some of u lot thought it was gonna be a cake walk this season. So do some of our pla

They are easy, negative observations that anyone with an ounce of football knowledge would struggle to disagree with.  And of course you have the higher ground as you’ve got a whole host of poor

I hate playing Oldham. Never got over that Darren Beckford goal. Bogey team, going to curl up in the cupboard under the stairs and drink a 10 pack of Guinness (I will have a bucket)

2 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Just when you think we've finally hit rock bottom new depths are reached.

At the minute there's only one way we are leaving this division. 

Home record 0-1-3. In Division Four. 

Hard to know whether to be angry, reflective, crestfallen or fatalistic. Been through them all this past 18 months. 

Horrible time to be supporting this great football club. 

In one.

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Was a spell of 5-10 mins early 2nd half when we shifted it quicker and actually stretched them...just felt bad we scored then we could have picked them off for more as they’d have pushed for an equaliser, but sadly our decision making and execution isn’t there ATM and sadly we are a soft touch; naive and too easy to bully. Ref let them get away with a lot but where are we giving it them back?!

I thought Kioso had a decent debut but you can’t take many positives from today.

For me the main issue is in CM; that’s where you break them up and also dictate the play for us. And we are shot at both. I don’t think you can play Crawford and Sarcevic..and Comley was awful. Not a good combo that.

FWIW I’d get Tutte back in and persevere with Crawford; as Sarc looks so far off the pace it’s scary

Pah, can’t even blame VARor owt

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At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, we are simply not in a position to take a chance on a young manager living out some Fifa21 Barcelona wankfest - not in our position and with what limited funds we have.

We are signing players that are incapable of suddenly being Messi, but might just be able to fit into a system more suited to clogging around League 2.

FV are great, and have my full backing, but I think this was an appointment by a naive outfit.

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Evatt:

“It isn’t good enough from anybody. From one to 24 in the squad they need to own up fast.

“Too many of them are too comfortable, not pushing themselves, and just happy to be at Bolton Wanderers. They think they have made it because of what we have got around us.

“I don’t see passion, I don’t see drive, I don’t see commitment. I don’t see people wanting to run that extra five yards and what it takes to help your friends out on the pitch.

“I’m disgusted with that performance, to be honest, and that’s a strong word. I’m disgusted.”

Is he passing the buck, or is he being fair?

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35 minutes ago, ProfessorWoland said:

I think they're trying to play better football than they're capable of.

 

 

Got to agree with this. Sadly I’m not convinced it’s a case of the system coming together & learning about each other anymore but that we aren’t good enough to play this way at this level.

IE earns his crust with how he adapts. I’m fine with him keeping to his values but he definitely needs to show pragmatism now; we look at our best when we get out forward quickly... 

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1 minute ago, Mantra said:

Evatt:

“It isn’t good enough from anybody. From one to 24 in the squad they need to own up fast.

“Too many of them are too comfortable, not pushing themselves, and just happy to be at Bolton Wanderers. They think they have made it because of what we have got around us.

“I don’t see passion, I don’t see drive, I don’t see commitment. I don’t see people wanting to run that extra five yards and what it takes to help your friends out on the pitch.

“I’m disgusted with that performance, to be honest, and that’s a strong word. I’m disgusted.”

Is he passing the buck, or is he being fair?

Well he’s not wrong but he has to show accountability too

The reaction has to be there now 

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6 minutes ago, Mantra said:

Evatt:

“It isn’t good enough from anybody. From one to 24 in the squad they need to own up fast.

“Too many of them are too comfortable, not pushing themselves, and just happy to be at Bolton Wanderers. They think they have made it because of what we have got around us.

“I don’t see passion, I don’t see drive, I don’t see commitment. I don’t see people wanting to run that extra five yards and what it takes to help your friends out on the pitch.

“I’m disgusted with that performance, to be honest, and that’s a strong word. I’m disgusted.”

Is he passing the buck, or is he being fair?

He can't really go any further than that now can he? He's called every one of em out there.

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2 minutes ago, jules_darby said:

Well he’s not wrong but he has to show accountability too

The reaction has to be there now 

Yeah, he also said

"that wasn’t a team of mine out there, that was gutless”

Get his point but he and Phoenix have specifically recruited this team from scratch. If he's signed these players for his system and it's not only unsuccessful but spectacularly failing, he needs to rethink how he can get the best out of them. How can he say they're "just happy to be at bolton and not pushing themselves" when they were harping on all preseason about singing the right characters as well as footballers, people that want to come and play for the club.

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44 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

I am seriously thinking 3rd bottom is a result this season

I would take that now . evatt is the emperors  new clothes It all sounds great but no substance to any of it pretty one touch football no end product in the last 3rd 

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7 minutes ago, jules_darby said:

Well he’s not wrong but he has to show accountability too

The reaction has to be there now 

The point is the players he has signed are not good enough and never will be. No amount of coaching will change that essential truth.

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1 minute ago, Casino said:

Oldham had better strikers

Simple as that

5 2 wouldve been fair

4/10

 

Too v similar teams 

Not sure either deserved to win by 3 but they had the better chances for sure 

Problem is we “should” be a lot better than them 

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1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Had these kind of post match comments from hill it’s boring now

lets start seeing some fucking improvement 

That's another thing, how many times does a player or group of them have to hear that they are not up to standard week after week before they just stop listening.

Needs to look at himself Evatt and decide whether his ideas are really suited to all this. I get he is inexperienced, so should think back to his times as a player when his managers will have gone fuck this we need to do the basics.

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13 minutes ago, Spider said:

At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, we are simply not in a position to take a chance on a young manager living out some Fifa21 Barcelona wankfest - not in our position and with what limited funds we have.

We are signing players that are incapable of suddenly being Messi, but might just be able to fit into a system more suited to clogging around League 2.

FV are great, and have my full backing, but I think this was an appointment by a naive outfit.

I think a fair few on here got ridiculed for wanting a gaffer like Nigel Clough in charge, our owners have taken a big gamble imo, I'm still fully behind Evatt, but he needs to sort this out sharpish!

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1 minute ago, Moonguest said:

The point is the players he has signed are not good enough and never will be. No amount of coaching will change that essential truth.

This this fucking this

BUT

You can still keep it simple and in this division get dirty horrible results.

These lads must watch videos of Man City and Barcelona in training And wonder what the fuck is going on.

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5 minutes ago, Moonguest said:

The point is the players he has signed are not good enough and never will be. No amount of coaching will change that essential truth.

Utter tosh

plenty of experience at this level he needs to find away to get them working

 

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His words come across slightly differently on video than on text but still that worries me massively if he's blaming the mentality. Need fighters in this division.

Agree with what he says about players being in the comfort zone. Rarely seeing committed challenges and lung-busting sprints.

Goes across all areas of the team. Lack of aggression and intensity.

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45 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

Got a feeling Crawford might be one of those who became brilliant whilst out injured. Struggling to see what he brings at moment,cant even fall back on his set pieces.

sadly he wasnt wanted by Doncaster or in Scotchland. time for everyone even poor old johnny to see he fits in with our other cast offs and rejects.

We need a strong spine snd we haven't even got a strong toe at moment. Aiming for 3rd bottom at moment.  actually glad im not there to see it. dragging myself over during the latter days of Parky was bad enough.

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5 minutes ago, burnden said:

 

Theres a thing I notice with Evatt, his words are always extreme one way or the other. This is a huge club, should be winning the league, we want targets on our back. Or, we're awful, these players always deflate me, we arent good enough 1 to 24.

Just rein it in a bit. He alone raised expectations to a huge degree pre season, now he alone needs to walk the walk.

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Remove all official club logo from anything the wear or use, don't let them wear any official branded kit until they deserve to honour the badge.  If you don't earn it you don't wear it!.

 

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