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After match thoughts of Ian Evatt “ I’m very disappointed with the start, Sharon the rest of the owners and the club have put a lot of faith in me, paid a lot of money to bring me here to the club with the belief of what I do and how I do things “
 
More from Ian Evatt “ It’s obviously been a difficult start, it’s going to take patience from them ( the owners) I believe I’ve got their backing I hope I’ve got their backing I’m sure I have because I will get it right, and I will “
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IE is absolutely spot on. Hes still got my full support and fwiw I’m confident that he will sort it. some of u lot thought it was gonna be a cake walk this season. So do some of our pla

They are easy, negative observations that anyone with an ounce of football knowledge would struggle to disagree with.  And of course you have the higher ground as you’ve got a whole host of poor

I hate playing Oldham. Never got over that Darren Beckford goal. Bogey team, going to curl up in the cupboard under the stairs and drink a 10 pack of Guinness (I will have a bucket)

IE is absolutely spot on.

Hes still got my full support and fwiw I’m confident that he will sort it.

some of u lot thought it was gonna be a cake walk this season.

So do some of our players it seems. 

i understand the fans frustration but this is a new team and it’s going to take time to get it right. How long? Can’t say at this stage but I think it’s gonna be a struggle this season, no shit Sherlock I hear you say.

the sooner IE calls them out and wakes them from their slumber, the better...

hes done that now so we need to see what the response is.

if it were me I’d get the fuckers in tomorrow morning for training, give em a drink then send them up to the mast and back.

then make them watch the game. Tell em it ain’t good enough.

then back up to the mast and back down again.

They should do this every week that we get beat! 

The penny will soon drop that if they want to survive in this league then they need to WORK! 

It ain’t rocket science, make em do it Evatt.

 

 

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He talks well, is brutally honest and is clearly hurting.

He is correct, they are very weak mentally.

That’s mainly where games are won and lost, but that comes with confidence.

Barrow will be tough for obvious reasons & then we go to Cambridge who are top of the league.

It could get a whole lot worse & the unthinkable could be a possibility if Oldham really are one of the worst teams (according to the bookies anyway) in the league. 

They were miles better than us in all honesty.

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4 minutes ago, Ruba Mustafa said:

IE is absolutely spot on.

Hes still got my full support and fwiw I’m confident that he will sort it.

some of u lot thought it was gonna be a cake walk this season.

So do some of our players it seems. 

i understand the fans frustration but this is a new team and it’s going to take time to get it right. How long? Can’t say at this stage but I think it’s gonna be a struggle this season, no shit Sherlock I hear you say.

the sooner IE calls them out and wakes them from their slumber, the better...

hes done that now so we need to see what the response is.

if it were me I’d get the fuckers in tomorrow morning for training, give em a drink then send them up to the mast and back.

then make them watch the game. Tell em it ain’t good enough.

then back up to the mast and back down again.

They should do this every week that we get beat! 

The penny will soon drop that if they want to survive in this league then they need to WORK! 

It ain’t rocket science, make em do it Evatt.

 

 

I mean, I get this and I'm far from wanting him out too. But he was in the paper this morning saying he thinks maybe he did raise expectations too much with what he said pre season.

They're not going to listen to him telling them they're shit every week, weve had this same post match comment about 4 times already this season and what effect has it had? 

Maybe these players arent good enough to implement his ideas. Fine. If that's the case it's on HIM to come up with ones they can work with and succeed under.

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2 minutes ago, desperado said:

Worst result and consequently the worst feeling this season.

The middle 5 including the WBs were just not good enough. 

Yep, the defence was actually ok for the most part today. Unfortunately the experienced players we expected big things from are all off colour. Gnuhua looked to have something about him so I’d stick him in next time. Darcy deserves a go as well. 

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I've been very positive so far but it's definitely getting to be a bit of a challenge.

My eldest messaged me about 15mins into the second half and said "Don’t even think we look that bad tbh" but he's at college and presumably taking a huge amount of drugs so his opinion can't be taken at face value.

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36 minutes ago, Mantra said:

Evatt:

“It isn’t good enough from anybody. From one to 24 in the squad they need to own up fast.

“Too many of them are too comfortable, not pushing themselves, and just happy to be at Bolton Wanderers. They think they have made it because of what we have got around us.

“I don’t see passion, I don’t see drive, I don’t see commitment. I don’t see people wanting to run that extra five yards and what it takes to help your friends out on the pitch.

“I’m disgusted with that performance, to be honest, and that’s a strong word. I’m disgusted.”

Is he passing the buck, or is he being fair?

Dont blame number 17......you have give him zero mins

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In a strange way, it could be a good thing we've lost today. A draw would've papered over the cracks to some extent. The reaction wouldn't have been so raw and brutal if it had been a draw. I think it was quite an open game where either team could have won. Yes Oldham had good chances and I think if anyone deserved to lose it probably was us.

But if this doesn't put a rocket up their arses I don't know what will. 

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7 minutes ago, Ruba Mustafa said:

IE is absolutely spot on.

Hes still got my full support and fwiw I’m confident that he will sort it.

some of u lot thought it was gonna be a cake walk this season.

So do some of our players it seems. 

i understand the fans frustration but this is a new team and it’s going to take time to get it right. How long? Can’t say at this stage but I think it’s gonna be a struggle this season, no shit Sherlock I hear you say.

the sooner IE calls them out and wakes them from their slumber, the better...

hes done that now so we need to see what the response is.

if it were me I’d get the fuckers in tomorrow morning for training, give em a drink then send them up to the mast and back.

then make them watch the game. Tell em it ain’t good enough.

then back up to the mast and back down again.

They should do this every week that we get beat! 

The penny will soon drop that if they want to survive in this league then they need to WORK! 

It ain’t rocket science, make em do it Evatt.

 

 

I don't buy that this is happening because we think we're billy big bollocks and don't think we have to put the effort in.

We aren't up to playing "the system". Just keep it simple.

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38 minutes ago, Mantra said:

Evatt:

“It isn’t good enough from anybody. From one to 24 in the squad they need to own up fast.

“Too many of them are too comfortable, not pushing themselves, and just happy to be at Bolton Wanderers. They think they have made it because of what we have got around us.

“I don’t see passion, I don’t see drive, I don’t see commitment. I don’t see people wanting to run that extra five yards and what it takes to help your friends out on the pitch.

“I’m disgusted with that performance, to be honest, and that’s a strong word. I’m disgusted.”

Is he passing the buck, or is he being fair?

Not being fair.  If he thinks every player from 1 to 24 isnt good enough/wasnt good enough, his judgement is even worse than the evidence presented before he said that.  It strikes me not facing up to the specific problems, anyone could say "its not good enough from anyone, we need to try harder"; I'd expect more from a manager and a bit of humility.

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22 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Utter tosh

plenty of experience at this level he needs to find away to get them working

 

Experience does not equal talent. He’s signed dross and dross is what you will continue to see.

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1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I don't buy that this is happening because we think we're billy big bollocks and don't think we have to put the effort in.

We aren't up to playing "the system". Just keep it simple.

Agree 100%.

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Just now, Johnnyrotten said:

Not being fair.  If he thinks every player from 1 to 24 isnt good enough/wasnt good enough, his judgement is even worse than the evidence presented before he said that.  It strikes me not facing up to the specific problems, anyone could say "its not good enough from anyone, we need to try harder"; I'd expect more from a manager and a bit of humility.

He did specify the mentality. I get what you're saying though. Not sure we can afford to keep chasing the dream of his Brand Evatt system. For whatever reason it's not working and yeah if you're Barrow and you get fuck all points to start the season it's different and you can take time to bed in. Finished 10th in his first season? But when you're coming to BWFC with public declarations of promotion being the aim from both owner and manager it's a whole new level and it does strike of naivety. 

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1 hour ago, DomRepWanderer said:

Are they shit? or are they being asked to play a game that doesn't suit them? as someone said football is an easy game, complicated by fools.

Do like that saying it’s like a lot of Brian clough  saying does make you think is evatt trying to over complicate it . But I suppose it worked at barrow 

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21 minutes ago, Ruba Mustafa said:

IE is absolutely spot on.

Hes still got my full support and fwiw I’m confident that he will sort it.

some of u lot thought it was gonna be a cake walk this season.

So do some of our players it seems. 

i understand the fans frustration but this is a new team and it’s going to take time to get it right. How long? Can’t say at this stage but I think it’s gonna be a struggle this season, no shit Sherlock I hear you say.

the sooner IE calls them out and wakes them from their slumber, the better...

hes done that now so we need to see what the response is.

if it were me I’d get the fuckers in tomorrow morning for training, give em a drink then send them up to the mast and back.

then make them watch the game. Tell em it ain’t good enough.

then back up to the mast and back down again.

They should do this every week that we get beat! 

The penny will soon drop that if they want to survive in this league then they need to WORK! 

It ain’t rocket science, make em do it Evatt.

 

 

Good post that fella 👍

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Evatt came into the club with a plan and an idea about the team style and players he wanted which Sharon bought, as did a lot of others. He has been backed, as far as we know, and got the players and has had 3 months to work out his style.

He clearly sold us all a pup, he never actually has ever had a plan and the sight every game of players looking clueless only says one thing - the manager isn't good enough.

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1 minute ago, Moonguest said:

Experience does not equal talent. He’s signed dross and dross is what you will continue to see.

I get that

but don’t tell me Doyle/Crawford/sarcevic/delfounso are dross and then you have others with league 1/2 experience 

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Just now, radcliffewhite1 said:

I get that

but don’t tell me Doyle/Crawford/sarcevic/delfounso are dross and then you have others with league 1/2 experience 

The only players I exclude are Doyle and Delfouneso.

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2 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

I get that

but don’t tell me Doyle/Crawford/sarcevic/delfounso are dross and then you have others with league 1/2 experience 

Exactly fella, most teams would bite their right arm off to have those players, and they need to start taking responsibility and start performing, some of the younger lads will be looking to them and they are not doing enough in games to bring on the rest. Frustrating as fuck watching us at the moment.

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26 minutes ago, Ruba Mustafa said:

IE is absolutely spot on.

Hes still got my full support and fwiw I’m confident that he will sort it.

some of u lot thought it was gonna be a cake walk this season.

So do some of our players it seems. 

i understand the fans frustration but this is a new team and it’s going to take time to get it right. How long? Can’t say at this stage but I think it’s gonna be a struggle this season, no shit Sherlock I hear you say.

the sooner IE calls them out and wakes them from their slumber, the better...

hes done that now so we need to see what the response is.

if it were me I’d get the fuckers in tomorrow morning for training, give em a drink then send them up to the mast and back.

then make them watch the game. Tell em it ain’t good enough.

then back up to the mast and back down again.

They should do this every week that we get beat! 

The penny will soon drop that if they want to survive in this league then they need to WORK! 

It ain’t rocket science, make em do it Evatt.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, hughmungus said:

Evatt came into the club with a plan and an idea about the team style and players he wanted which Sharon bought, as did a lot of others. He has been backed, as far as we know, and got the players and has had 3 months to work out his style.

He clearly sold us all a pup, he never actually has ever had a plan and the sight every game of players looking clueless only says one thing - the manager isn't good enough.

2 posts which reflect our disappointment and identify the issues we see. But one is rational, one irrational.... I’m sure we can all work out which is which....

 

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1 minute ago, Moonguest said:

The only players I exclude are Doyle and Delfouneso.

I can’t agree that most of these aren’t good enough at this level ability wise.

They aren’t playing well enough granted. And maybe what they aren’t good enough for is this system rather than the division as such

I think IE is on the money with their mentality but it’s not the only problem

Well, it’s his time to show us what he can do with them...let’s see 

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