leigh white Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, crawshawbooth said: i grew up in a house in bolton that was not a council house or a terrace in the 60 /70s that when the term burglars is used i just wonder what the fuck could anybody steal from the house i grew up in we had brass but not even a record player until 1977 the telly was a rental in 1974 before that we didnt have one I had a flat in 79, the repo men took my telly away because the coin slot container didn't have enough money in it.😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Ani said: And you spend £10 on their food every week ? MPs get £25 per day allowance for meals. What is that you are in a tiss about ?? If course not, but that is on top of what they usually get.. This has nothing to do with what MP's receive... It irrelevant. Single and couple families already get enough tax payers money to feed there kids. The taxpayer already pays for most of their meals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: What I see working in schools around my area. You can't take your own personal experience and extrapolate that to understand the entire country. Well you can, but you won't get an accurate result. For example, someone who works in a school in Alderly Edge isn't going to experience the same issues faced by someone who works in an inner-city school in Birmingham or London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: If course not, but that is on top of what they usually get.. This has nothing to do with what MP's receive... It irrelevant. Single and couple families already get enough tax payers money to feed there kids. The taxpayer already pays for most of their meals. Right. I have no idea what you are in a tiss over. The virus has fucked people over people on zero hours contracts and lowest pay as always be the worst hit. Schools are having to close. Kids are at home more often. To get through this situation the Govt spurred on by Rashford are spending some of the £Ms we are saving by leaving the EU to feed hungry kids. I would rather it went on that than a new train line. If you think money being in one area (MPs expenses) is not relevant to money being spent in another area you are wrong. There is a finite amount of money. An MP spending a 5 nights in London gets £125 to cover food. I do not think it is excessive but if the issue is the pot is empty I know which I would cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Single and couple families already get enough tax payers money to feed there kids. Says who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Cheese said: You can't take your own personal experience and extrapolate that to understand the entire country. Well you can, but you won't get an accurate result. For example, someone who works in a school in Alderly Edge isn't going to experience the same issues faced by someone who works in an inner-city school in Birmingham or London. I've already said a few time I think some are entitled to it. What makes you think everyone claiming it is entitled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Traf said: Says who? Do a benefit claim from and see how much you can get. Think you'll be suprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: I've already said a few time I think some are entitled to it. What makes you think everyone claiming it is entitled? Do you think people might not claim because people are all over social media saying it is wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Why is everyone letting this person troll them? We know right from wrong, if they are indeed a real person, then let them spin. Its a grim world for them if thats what they really believe. Its not what I see in this forum, or in my normal life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, wanderer1984 said: Do a benefit claim from and see how much you can get. Think you'll be suprised. Me and the wife are self-employed and we've both made next to fuck all this year. I'd expect we'd get something if we claimed, so no surprise. Are you suggesting I shouldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just now, Traf said: Me and the wife are self-employed and we've both made next to fuck all this year. I'd expect we'd get something if we claimed, so no surprise. Are you suggesting I shouldn't? They're/hes a WUM. Dont rise to this nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, wanderer1984 said: Do a benefit claim from and see how much you can get. Think you'll be suprised. I did one in January and was surprised. I have not earned anything since April 2019. My missus has an ill health pension and works 1 day a week doing house viewings. I could get £80 per week JSA based on contributions made in previous 24 months. I got this for 13 weeks. I have no savings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ani said: Do you think people might not claim because people are all over social media saying it is wrong ? No... I think people that genuinely need the help of course would apply for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Traf said: Me and the wife are self-employed and we've both made next to fuck all this year. I'd expect we'd get something if we claimed, so no surprise. Are you suggesting I shouldn't? You should If you can't make ends meet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ani said: I did one in January and was surprised. I have not earned anything since April 2019. My missus has an ill health pension and works 1 day a week doing house viewings. I could get £80 per week JSA based on contributions made in previous 24 months. I got this for 13 weeks. I have no savings. Do you own your own house? A lot is already based on if you have children under 16 also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, wanderer1984 said: You should If you can't make ends meet Alright little lord fontelroy, who made you judge and jury? Obviously noone. So, maybe just wind it in for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, wanderer1984 said: Do you own your own house? A lot is already based on if you have children under 16 also. Yes on a mortgage which as mentioned on the Pension thread is about £1k per month. That would be about what the missus earns a month including her ill health pension. Kids both over 16 but living at home. Step daughter does lashes so not worked during lock downs. I only mention this as the idea that benefits are just chucked at you is bollox. I agree some people play/abuse the system but tarring everyone with the same brush is just more bollox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Alright little lord fontelroy, who made you judge and jury? Obviously noone. So, maybe just wind it in for a bit. Are you suggesting they shouldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Ani said: Yes on a mortgage which as mentioned on the Pension thread is about £1k per month. That would be about what the missus earns a month including her ill health pension. Kids both over 16 but living at home. Step daughter does lashes so not worked during lock downs. I only mention this as the idea that benefits are just chucked at you is bollox. I agree some people play/abuse the system but tarring everyone with the same brush is just more bollox. The reason I asked is because I know a family with two kids... Both under 16. Both work part time... 10 and 15 hours per week each at min wage. They receive £1,200 a month benefit. They rent which I believe comes out of that £1,200 also the leccy/water rates. Council tax paid for by the state. Edited November 17, 2020 by wanderer1984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Are you suggesting they shouldn't? I'm suggesting, just listen, rather than carp on. We're a broad church from all ends of the country, with a vast range of experience and views. Generally we've all grown up, live, or have ties to Bolton. We all love the town and our club. So, if you disagree with a view, not a problem, have a verbal 'bantz' but please, don't try and be clever with this lot. You won't last five minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, wanderer1984 said: The reason I asked is because I know a family with two kids... Both under 16. Both work part time... 10 and 15 hours per week each at min wage. They receive £1,200 a month benifit. They rent which I believe comes out of that £1,200 also the leccy/water rates. Council tax paid for by the state. Whats benifit? And also, what is their benifit entitlement? Or is this just normal pub talk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said: I'm suggesting, just listen, rather than carp on. We're a broad church from all ends of the country, with a vast range of experience and views. Generally we've all grown up, live, or have ties to Bolton. We all love the town and our club. So, if you disagree with a view, not a problem, have a verbal 'bantz' but please, don't try and be clever with this lot. You won't last five minutes. I suggest you do the same. This thread I've done nothing to suggest otherwise. You've got your knickers in a twist.... Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Whats benifit? And also, what is their benifit entitlement? Or is this just normal pub talk? You're accusing me of the the exact same thing you're doing to me. But of course you don't see it. Edited November 17, 2020 by wanderer1984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: You're accusing me of the the exact same thing you're doing to me. But of course you don't see it. Trust me, self awareness is something im pretty good at. Come on, reveal yourself. Its not someone like Snowball, its too much for him. If you you have just joined this merry band, which I somehow doubt, you've got to raise your game. You are neither funny, correct or clever. You are quite engaging though. In a special way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted November 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2020 I do know a lot of fsm do go to waste, But for everyone that does there is one that doesn't, and some of these kids have such a shit home life, its least we can do. I'm talking shit that would keep you up at night crying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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