SatanGreavsie Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: I imagine there wouldn’t have necessarily been the same level of international travel for it to spread quite so easily either. Aye, and, if we're talking about the 70s, internal UK travel as well to some extent. And on that front, shops were shut in the evening, Wednesday afternoon and all of Sunday. You could offset that by saying boozers were more of a focal point. But all in all, outbreaks might have been easier to contain to local events - albeit with a worse prognosis for survival rates when they did flare up. But it's still sobering the think that you really don't have to go back very far at all to get to a scenario where the connectivity that has made working possible for many, provided support (both directly and in a more indirect social media contact kind of way to keep people vaguely sane) etc etc, simply couldn't have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Good Knee Posted January 1, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said: I imagine there wouldn’t have necessarily been the same level of international travel for it to spread quite so easily either. Also I don't think their was as many owd folks in homes, now they live longer and we pack em off to care homes because we don't want them at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 1, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2021 48 minutes ago, Good Knee said: Also I don't think their was as many owd folks in homes, now they live longer and we pack em off to care homes because we don't want them at home. Bit unfair that- folk are often working, or without the capabilites to look after old folk with complex needs. Cant be an easy decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Good Knee Posted January 1, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Bit unfair that- folk are often working, or without the capabilites to look after old folk with complex needs. Cant be an easy decision. Aye you are right mate , wasn't meaning to be unfair , my old mum ended her days in a home, we simply couldn't have her its its often how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 1, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, Good Knee said: Aye you are right mate , wasn't meaning to be unfair , my old mum ended her days in a home, we simply couldn't have her its its often how it is. Going back to your earlier post about the 70s. Things have definitely changed, more people work I reckon, stranger shift patterns with longer opening, and folk surviving longer with certain conditions. In many ways things are better now, but life seems more rushed/pressured and perhaps people have less time for each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatty Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 19 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Going back to your earlier post about the 70s. Things have definitely changed, more people work I reckon, stranger shift patterns with longer opening, and folk surviving longer with certain conditions. In many ways things are better now, but life seems more rushed/pressured and perhaps people have less time for each other. I’d be quite happy with the simpler times of Sunday closing etc. Probably loads of counter arguments though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 2, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 hours ago, fatty said: I’d be quite happy with the simpler times of Sunday closing etc. Probably loads of counter arguments though. We grow into society's changes, and become accustomed to 24hr shopping, banking etc. Then more folk end up employed in strange shifts. Is life more rushed/stressed than it used to be? I reckon so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted January 2, 2021 Members Share Posted January 2, 2021 23 hours ago, Good Knee said: Also I don't think their was as many owd folks in homes, now they live longer and we pack em off to care homes because we don't want them at home. I don't think it's because people don't want them at home. People are living longer meaning more health problems. I visit care homes as part of my job and some of the poor dears in there makes me heart broken. People just can't cope with their needs at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 2, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 2, 2021 Last thing my dad wanted was for my mum to go in a home When she died, he wouldve gone with her Last thing i wanted when my dads denentia kicked in was to be paying 4k a month fees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Gonna have to face up to all this with my mum at some point Shes 84 in March. Sharp as a fucking tack as some on here will testify. No way will she go in to a home. No way at all. Summat about care homes came up in conversation when I was driving her to my brothers on Xmas Day. She was genuinely concerned that I was angling the conversation towards pushing her that way She has every single marble in exactly the right place and no underlying conditions other than childhood polio that is now hitting her mobility big time. She’ll keep going for god knows how many years but the mobility will become an issue fairly soon I reckon. Neither me or my brother have the capacity to move her in so that decision is going to be horrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 we had to do it to my dad, the home he went in charged £700 per week 3 years ago, he did 22 weeks then died in hospital aged 91, old age is fucking horrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 There is a home in poshest bit of Edinburgh. The chef there was on masterchef the professionals. It charges 2.5k a week upwards. One of the Rooms is a proper suite. Madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, MancWanderer said: Gonna have to face up to all this with my mum at some point Shes 84 in March. Sharp as a fucking tack as some on here will testify. No way will she go in to a home. No way at all. Summat about care homes came up in conversation when I was driving her to my brothers on Xmas Day. She was genuinely concerned that I was angling the conversation towards pushing her that way She has every single marble in exactly the right place and no underlying conditions other than childhood polio that is now hitting her mobility big time. She’ll keep going for god knows how many years but the mobility will become an issue fairly soon I reckon. Neither me or my brother have the capacity to move her in so that decision is going to be horrible There is a half way kind of option in these over 55 type developements where they keep a large degree of independence in their own flats/small houses, largely built specifically without stairs & so on, & with communal areas & a caretaker type person living on site or nearby. There are a couple in Sharples, one on Sharples Hall Drive, the other on Sharples Hall Fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 2, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, MancWanderer said: Gonna have to face up to all this with my mum at some point Shes 84 in March. Sharp as a fucking tack as some on here will testify. No way will she go in to a home. No way at all. Summat about care homes came up in conversation when I was driving her to my brothers on Xmas Day. She was genuinely concerned that I was angling the conversation towards pushing her that way She has every single marble in exactly the right place and no underlying conditions other than childhood polio that is now hitting her mobility big time. She’ll keep going for god knows how many years but the mobility will become an issue fairly soon I reckon. Neither me or my brother have the capacity to move her in so that decision is going to be horrible She's got a wicked sense of humour too. Anyway, as stated above- a halfway type accommodation may be a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, bolton va va said: There is a half way kind of option in these over 55 type developements where they keep a large degree of independence in their own flats/small houses, largely built specifically without stairs & so on, & with communal areas & a caretaker type person living on site or nearby. There are a couple in Sharples, one on Sharples Hall Drive, the other on Sharples Hall Fold. Oh she knows well about them. She lives off Sharples Avenue. The slightest mention brings out the death stare.... Honestly, she’d rather me poison her than move somewhere like that As mentioned on another thread a while ago, her and my grandmother kindly asked the local GP to “do a Shipman” to her dad. He died peacefully. Thats her mindset 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: She's got a wicked sense of humour too. Anyway, as stated above- a halfway type accommodation may be a good idea. You know her. Can you imagine her somewhere like that? Looking at a garden that she’s not in control of? 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 3, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2021 11 hours ago, MancWanderer said: Oh she knows well about them. She lives off Sharples Avenue. The slightest mention brings out the death stare.... Honestly, she’d rather me poison her than move somewhere like that As mentioned on another thread a while ago, her and my grandmother kindly asked the local GP to “do a Shipman” to her dad. He died peacefully. Thats her mindset You know her. Can you imagine her somewhere like that? Looking at a garden that she’s not in control of? 🤣🤣 Very true. She'd certainly miss her garden for sure. To be honest, if there's one thing that I've seen since being involved in grounds maintenance is the poor approach so many have to their open space. Vastly under utilised resource; a great opportunity to get folk outside, socialising, moving doing a bit for themselves in a protected space. Tend to be soulless rough lawns with a few trees and shrubs with no particular theme or activity opportunity. Frustrates the hell out of me. Many schools the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 4, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2021 Can't remember the last time I washed my hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted January 4, 2021 Members Share Posted January 4, 2021 Back doing school drop off and pick ups today. Let's see how many of the thicko parents refuse to wear a mask in the playground (it's quite confined whilst queuing up) Pisses me off that I know quite a few of them are health professionals but can't be arsed following the 1 or 2 rules schools have asked of us. Knobheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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