Johnnyrotten Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 43 minutes ago, gonzo said: Opinions innit but I honestly dont think he is. Isgrove is the only player with any kind of spark at the minute. One thing Darcy can't be accused of is not having a spark. His game is about energy, drive, pass and move and quality delivery from dead balls. Even his critics must be puzzled at how he's been behind every single midfielder in the squad this season, as if he's a walking disaster. Isgrove is very much league 2 standard, Darcy is no world beater but he's a league one player. As you say, its just opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, kent_white said: The idea is probably to end up with a squad where you've got cover for every position. You ain't gonna do that in one window. I agree, so what you would hope for is to use the players available in their best position. It really isn't too much to ask to have a left footed left back, you'd expect that in the sunday league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 2, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: I agree, so what you would hope for is to use the players available in their best position. It really isn't too much to ask to have a left footed left back, you'd expect that in the sunday league. Which left footer would you play at left back or wingback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Eavesy said: Do we have any examples of darcy doing anything in a Bolton shirt? No, aside from his 2 goals. Its just an opinion from watching him play. I also don't have many examples of White and Isgrove doing anything in a Bolton (or other) shirt but they've had about 20 starts between them, compared to 1 for Darcy. We can argue all day long about their merits but surely you must think that's a bit odd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Casino said: Which left footer would you play at left back or wingback? We've had this conversation before, but it depends who's not chosen at CB. So today it would have been Delaney (its soon forgotten how good he was first 10 games or so). If he's CB, then Taft or Greenidge. Nothing against Jones, he's fine as a full back, and as a last resort if he has to play left back because we don't have one, OK. But he's a defender (same as Brockbank) not a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Isgrove is very much league 2 standard I don’t think we can truly judge him until he’s had a settled run of starting games, particularly as he did so well at Swindon. Edited January 2, 2021 by Leyther_Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 However well he did at Swindon, he's league 2 standard, its plain to see, and they didn't want to keep him, he only played 29 games for them. I've nothing against him, I've seen worse (in our team this season) but he's not better than Darcy in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: However well he did at Swindon, he's league 2 standard, its plain to see, and they didn't want to keep him, he only played 29 games for them. I've nothing against him, I've seen worse (in our team this season) but he's not better than Darcy in my opinion. Isgrove is shit; not as shit as most of the wing backs but still shit Evatt has took us down to the lowest level EVER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Isgrove is shit; not as shit as most of the wing backs but still shit Evatt has took us down to the lowest level EVER He really hasn’t. I can’t see how anyone is blaming him for where we are. This has been 10 years in the making this. Yes IE needs to try and get us out of it and back on an upward trajectory but we were rotten to the core with a losing mentality. Going to take some changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Isgrove is shit; not as shit as most of the wing backs but still shit Evatt has took us down to the lowest level EVER 25 minutes ago, Escobarp said: He really hasn’t. I can’t see how anyone is blaming him for where we are. This has been 10 years in the making this. Yes IE needs to try and get us out of it and back on an upward trajectory but we were rotten to the core with a losing mentality. Going to take some changing. There's no argument that we are at our lowest point EVER, but to blame Evatt is just plain stupid. We were fucked long before he came, at least give the bloke a chance. Sometimes in a game, just sometimes, i see flashes of what he's trying to do and at this level it looks decent. Give him time, he'll sort it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, marple whites said: Only started playing at 1-0 down. gilks had already made a couple of good saves as well. yes, had loads of chances in the last half hour, but should have plated like that from the start. 3 home wins tells its own tale and still not been greatly impressed with any team we have played. again, pleased we haven’t had to go and watch it, as can start drinking heavily at 4-50 Erm..... Don’t talk the truth. it’s not allowed. Let’s just make excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 57 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: We've had this conversation before, but it depends who's not chosen at CB. So today it would have been Delaney (its soon forgotten how good he was first 10 games or so). If he's CB, then Taft or Greenidge. Nothing against Jones, he's fine as a full back, and as a last resort if he has to play left back because we don't have one, OK. But he's a defender (same as Brockbank) not a winger. I don't understand how you can object to Jones playing LWB on the basis of him being a defender rather than a winger and then suggest Delaney, Taft or Greenidge should play there instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 3, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 3, 2021 Hopefully, today was the last time we didnt have a proper Lwb Even so, id have stuck jones right and isgrove left He at least has a trick in him, even if he cant go outside their full back It really is killing us the lack of an attacking option on the left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 If we had a Kioso on the left we'd favver Real Madrid in this division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Another game drifts aimlessly by Which will soon turn into another season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 3, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2021 Under Hill we were close to getting former Bury trainee (now at Brentford) and Wales U21 international, Joe Adams. Ex-Rivvy & Blackrod HIgh School and massive Bolton fan. I reckon he’d jump at the chance to put half a season in with us as a left winger. As an aside, took a look on Crawleyways, it seems their fans also accept we should’ve won 5 or 6-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Is something not right behind the scenes with the training? He can't suddenly make shit players into world beaters but I thought part of his thing was we'd be fitter than everyone else so we could play at a higher tempo and keep moving. Some of these men are blowing out their arseholes after 10 minutes and are in and out of the game every 90 mins they're on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughmungus Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Ani said: Why do you only post when we lose ? I am a million miles off being a happy clapper. If you think IE is to blame for where the club is today you are ignoring 10 years of mismanagement. He is the manager of course he is to blame, or are you referring to things from 2 yrs ago which are history now and obviously not on his watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 3, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, ErnestTurnip said: Is something not right behind the scenes with the training? He can't suddenly make shit players into world beaters but I thought part of his thing was we'd be fitter than everyone else so we could play at a higher tempo and keep moving. Some of these men are blowing out their arseholes after 10 minutes and are in and out of the game every 90 mins they're on the pitch. Some of them run faster going off at half time than they do during the match 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, hughmungus said: He is the manager of course he is to blame, or are you referring to things from 2 yrs ago which are history now and obviously not on his watch Why do you only post when we lose was the question. Do you think he had total say in last round of signings? Do I think he is a brilliant mind ? A genius ? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 9 hours ago, captainmed said: Erm..... Don’t talk the truth. it’s not allowed. Let’s just make excuses. Dont think many are making excuses, we all know its been shit, but even if its 20 mintues yesterday, we show how good we can be going forward. Theres hope there and this fella is half a season in with a scratch team, half of whom were brought in by some dude whos now been potted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, gonzo said: Dont think many are making excuses, we all know its been shit, but even if its 20 mintues yesterday, we show how good we can be going forward. Theres hope there and this fella is half a season in with a scratch team, half of whom were brought in by some dude whos now been potted. Correct. Sack Evatt and we're back at square 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughmungus Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ani said: Why do you only post when we lose was the question. Do you think he had total say in last round of signings? Do I think he is a brilliant mind ? A genius ? No. Because we have lost regularly against teams we should never have lost to because of Evatt and his limited ability. I go into every game expecting to win so don’t see a need to state the obvious. No one knows what level of input he has had with recruiting players but that is his problem in a way because he appears to have taken the job expecting others to make decisions that he should have had to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughmungus Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Traf said: Correct. Sack Evatt and we're back at square 1. No we aren’t because this league isn’t that complicated, we just need someone with a plan and ability to implement it, once we are in a higher division then we start to look for the next level of manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 3, 2021 Members Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, hughmungus said: No we aren’t because this league isn’t that complicated, we just need someone with a plan and ability to implement it, once we are in a higher division then we start to look for the next level of manager Who would you rather have. Don’t give me some generic bollocks, be specific and name names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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