Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Merino. Doesn't whiff. I'm convinced that woolen products and wool blends will grow in popularity in the future. Its a great, natural product and with modern technology I'm sure we'll see more of it. MiL still hand knits sweaters, and I prefer them to a fleece when under a waterproof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I'm convinced that woolen products and wool blends will grow in popularity in the future. Its a great, natural product and with modern technology I'm sure we'll see more of it. MiL still hand knits sweaters, and I prefer them to a fleece when under a waterproof. Loads of cycling gear is merino. It's ace stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: In general in life, you get what you pay for. @Youri McAnespiequotes decent wine for a fiver, for example, but, on average, you'll get a better wine for a tenner. Boots are too important to get wrong. Very difficult to buy online and get it rght I've NEVER said £5-er wine is owt but utter piss not even fit for sprinkling on one's chips. Oddbins would've handed me my p45 with immediate effect. I may have said one may buy decent wine in say, Croatia, for the Kuna equivalent of a fiver - but not here. The utterly extortionate excise and VAT situation here - where wine is viewed as luxury rather than an essential... The wine in a £5 bottle is bought for and average of 31p. It's fucking rubbish (£5 wine in The UK) I'd rather sup the tipple of choice of a 100,000 Spanish hobos - a €1 Litre carton of Don Simon. https://www.decanter.com/learn/tax-wine-much-pay-uk-ask-decanter-357119/ Edited January 13, 2021 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Loads of cycling gear is merino. It's ace stuff How is it for washing, no expansion nore shrinkage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Much prefer leather for walks where the terrain is wet. Had the lighter half and half type stuff that is waterproof, but found that walking through long, wet grass, the waterproofing treatments wear off. Discussed it once in a boot shop, and the lady agreed that leather, when looked after will retain its waterproof nature longer. Prefer to use traditional wax type treatments too, rather than the water based reactive stuff that you wipe on. As long as you treat it each season, a three season non leather boot will do just as well for even the longest of wet grass Too many trad leather fetishists round here, men of a certain age I suppose. If I was to.go.for a.more trad boot again, it would definitely be a Brasher though. They are really lightweight nowadays but you'd still need a summer walking shoe or boot, especially here in the warmer.months. Ground is very hard and dry, just no give, wearing leather would just burn your feet up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 39 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Anyway, when I did Everest, i did it in flip-flops and denim shorts, also swam the Channel (Le Manche) with 1 flipper and a pair of tight BWFC circa 1978 shorts. Nothing expensive or fancy, just pure determination 😉 Did you get your shoe advice from Bolts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: How is it for washing, no expansion nore shrinkage? Doesn't shrink, but I don't tumble dry it. The beauty of it is though, you don't need to wash it loads because it doesn't smell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: Doesn't shrink, but I don't tumble dry it. The beauty of it is though, you don't need to wash it loads because it doesn't smell. Urgh. After a sweaty ride, I reckon I'd be washing it any road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 To be honest, its all academic for me. I'm know as Zola Budd in the Bromley Ramblers and Non leather boot wearing walking club. Boots are for women and old Northern men. The only true walkers are bare foot walkers. In fact, tackle out, back pack on. Thats real rambling. Skin is the most waterproof material known to man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Urgh. After a sweaty ride, I reckon I'd be washing it any road. I think that but let it dry, quick sniff, back in the wardrobe 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Always two.runs for running gear. You don't care once you set off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) See, Decathlon boots are probably perfectly fine for mincing round Hampstead Heath or prancing up and the aisles in theatre land luvvie, but proper Northern folk who actually live in the North, need something more substantial. Edited January 14, 2021 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 13, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Gore tex fabric is/was designed to allow vapour out whilst preventing getting water in. This is achieved by the presence of billions of tiny pores within the fabric which are larger than vapour molecules but smaller than water droplets. It is absolutely vital to maintain this functionality, by ensuring the garment is clean on the outside and is regularly washed/proofed as necessary to prevent it from wetting out- if this occurs, then the surface layer of water will prevent vapour escaping from within. Its some 20+ years since I was loosely involved, and no doubt technologies have improved. Gore tex garments are cheaper for example. Personally, I suggest you look at the hydrostatic head that the garment will protect you from- should be on the label. Typically, the higher the better, but cost will rise too. Also maybe try to find out how abrasion resistant the material is. I love my goretex- doesn’t let rain in, simple. Sure still do get damp inside a bit from sweat- but none are perfect. Also consider number of layers- too many and vapour has effectively cooled before it gets out of the garment and condenses inside. An issue I've found at times by having too many. Love a good thermal base layer on first, then clothes according to conditions. #accidentalpartridge Edited January 13, 2021 by ZicoKelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted January 14, 2021 Members Share Posted January 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said: Every man and his dog is walking more at the moment, cos there's fuck all else to do. Now i'm not talking trekking in the Himalayas in January, but i walk 5 miles every single day in all weathers through fields and woodland and there's nowt worse than getting pissed wet thru, or freezing cold or worst of all having cold wet feet. Anyone any recommendations for reasonably priced walking gear that just does the job? I've had my fingers burnt with Decathlon stuff in the past, their stuff looks ok ish, but in reality it's just shit. Footwear wise i'm pretty sorted with waterproof hiking boots form TOG24, coupled with Sealskinz socks - so feet are warm and dry. Leg wise i've just bought some waterproof over kex from Mountain Warehouse, but it's too early to tell if they're any good or not yet. Waterproof jackets? Fleeces? etc WTF!!! I am still reeling about insults, complaints and inconsiderate comments about 'yomping' from the town centre up COR etc. and now you are asking for walking gear recommendations! FFS! Julia Bradbury. Great walks and she has a certain something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, bolty58 said: WTF!!! I am still reeling about insults, complaints and inconsiderate comments about 'yomping' from the town centre up COR etc. and now you are asking for walking gear recommendations! FFS! Julia Bradbury. Great walks and she has a certain something. 😀On that particular occasion (15 years ago omg), new footwear (pre broken in Timberlands iirc)cost me dearly! What i wouldn’t give for a “re-yomp” right now 😂Physically i’m in a far better place than i was back then P,with daily 5-6 mile yomps & regular cycling blasts. It’s our mental states that are perhaps suffering over here at the moment mate,with all the mind numbing and seemingly endless Draconian restrictions 🤪. A day on the lash, watching the Whites,followed by a few more beers,a lovely drunken curry,then a painful yomp up COR would be absolute heaven right now. Edited January 14, 2021 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said: See, Decathlon boots are probably perfectly fine for mincing round Hampstead Heath or prancing up and down the aisles in theatre land, but proper Northern folk who actually live up North need something more substantial. I didn't know the Lakes were down south, but carry on you shitty footed bugger. I all.serious though I do love the North is proper hard walking, the South is shite mince land. There is some fine, and difficult, walking to be done down here. The Weald is glorious and difficult. The biggest difference is certainly the soil, I find it much easier up North due to it not being clay, across the Downs in winter there is no drainage for the rain, ends up like glue, and in summer its rock hard and dusty as fuck. Plus flint deposits make it really easy to turn an ankle. This country has fine, and challenging walking all over, don't kid yourself that its just the North that can offer that. Where I live there are more hills than where I grew up, the whole of this part of London is valleys and hills. The only.lart of the country I've not enjoyed walking is Cambridgeshire, its beautiful but so flat that it becomes a trudge. If you are ever down south happy to take you out on a yomp - even in some.of London's backwaters there are some excellent walks. Darrent Valley is lovely, hills, views.....Alan Partridges bird sanctuary. Edited January 14, 2021 by Not in Crawley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I'll even let you wear your fusty leather boots like a real man 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Boots. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jungle-Boots-Genuine-British-Army-Issued-SAS-Size-10R-Best-Condition/402641638126?hash=item5dbf4fd2ee:g:Ch0AAOSwKbNf~CSF Outerwear. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NBC-suit-2-Piece-smock-trousers-DPM-British-Army-MK-4/274643166061?hash=item3ff202236d:g:hoQAAOSwA-9feLC6 Waterproof. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-Army-Genuine-1958-Pattern-Poncho-Rain-Cape-Falklands-Cold-War-Bushcraft/203246090883?hash=item2f52693a83:g:4LgAAOSwvyhf~aov Maintenance. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIKWAX-Fabric-and-Leather-Proof-Spray-300ML-Waterproofing-Breathability-Footwear/132589476328 All the above kit costs less than 60 quid all in. It has the added bonus of people viewing you as a; mentalist/scarred vet/prepper/rapist/disgruntled public sector worker/serial killer/spree killer/Barry Bulsara...(or any in combination - delete as applicable). So folk give you a wide berth - ideal in current circumstances. N.B. - I have loads of the two piece NBC Army suits. Falklands issue, double bag vaccuum sealed, as good as the day they were made when opened. And I'm practically giving them away compared to the Ebay clown above. Ask Dave at The Winchester for details or PM me direct. Edited January 14, 2021 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 14, 2021 Members Share Posted January 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: Boots. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-Army-Genuine-1958-Pattern-Poncho-Rain-Cape-Falklands-Cold-War-Bushcraft/203246090883?hash=item2f52693a83:g:4LgAAOSwvyhf~aov Outerwear. Belter that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @Rudy Go back to the post, now edited for the full get-up... Buy the lot and go walking in it - you'll be guaranteed to be reported to the police as a 'strange man' by some meddlesome ratbag/wanker within seconds. This means should you get into difficulties, the emergency services will already know your whereabouts. Winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: I'll even let you wear your fusty leather boots like a real man 😁 You could wear your Decathlon “Superboots” 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Seriously though, those two part NBC outfits are excellent, cool in summer, warm in winter... Only problem is the charcoal lining comes off on other clothes and under fingernails etc. for a while when it's 'new' (first taken out of the vaccum pack). I bought a load of them about twelve years ago - my idiot mate said I got them cheap because he read they'd been 'irradiated during the first Gulf War' - yup, jungle camo works well in a desert... He had an 'open mind' about chemtrails until recently...🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 14, 2021 Members Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: @Rudy Go back to the post, now edited for the full get-up... Buy the lot and go walking in it - you'll be guaranteed to be reported to the police as a 'strange man' by some meddlesome ratbag/wanker within seconds. This means should you get into difficulties, the emergency services will already know your whereabouts. Winner. The rain poncho is cracking I’d sport that in the ESL. When I went to the Yokohama there was a market which had either replica or genuine ex army clothing, they had loads of Vietcong gear and Korean army uniforms it was bizarre, the sort of stuff you’d see Lemmy from Motörhead wearing. Next time I’m there I’ll pick you something up. I’ll clean off the agent orange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Tell you what I could do with; something to stop my specs steaming up on days like this Edited January 14, 2021 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @Rudy Yokohama? Won't gear there be about £300 in Yen? Might be a bit snug an' all if intended for use by the man in the black pyjamas... Those ponchos are ace - they can be adapted into a rudimentary tent. If you watch a lot of survivally stuff (Ray Mears, Grylls, Steve Backshall) you notice a lot of military surplus gear amongst the more modern stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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