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The key to getting up this league for me is to sort out the Sarcevic issue . While being no better or worse than others so far this season  for whatever reason we clearly are getting nowhere near the best from the lad.

There seems to be no logic to having him sitting so deep when he was brought in for his attacking abilities , and he's now starting to cut a frustrated figure who looks good when we have our tails up but for the majority of the time he's too deep to be helping the attacks .

I'm not sure what the full problem is , whether it's a formation unsuited to him , carrying excess weight or basically being played out of position . I was buzzing when we signed him and I hope we find a way of getting the best out of him but at the minute he's achieving no more or no less than the other midfielders and from one of our marquee signings i think we need to start seeing the lad who was tearing up the league last season . 

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1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

Not easy for a new lad to come in to a new set-up at any level, he kept his position and gave us some width, thats all really, maybe he would have been better on the bench, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I'm not excusing the lads performance, it was okay at best, just trying to put some perspective on the situation, if anybody was at fault, it was IE selecting him.

I wasn't being nasty, I genuinely thought he was saying Helpless Eddy in his Scottish accent, only when I checked the team I realised who he was on about

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3 hours ago, DazBob said:

Thought Brockbank did ok.

Crawford was, as usual, absolutely dreadful.

 

I think you must have wrote that before you watched him play.  Did nothing wrong and the only time there is any quality delivery from dead balls is if he's playing.  Just because our centre halves clear it for the opposition doesn't make it a bad ball.

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4 hours ago, Casino said:

Nah

We deserved something

We only deserved something if all the possession and chances turned into the occasional goal. We were massively ahead in possession stats in the first half but couldn’t turn it into goals. Doyle needs to go see a sports psychologist to convince him he’s a striker. In fact, scrub that, it’s me who needs convincing he’s a striker.

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Imo Darcy would bring energy & enthusiasm to our team and he always wants the ball. Anyone who thinks he couldn’t handle Div2 is just talking bollocks imo, he was one of the few shining lights in what was a miserable season for us in Div 1 last term. I can only think theres some sort of personality clash with I.E. I feel for the lad, he deserves a chance this season.

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1 minute ago, MickyD said:

We only deserved something if all the possession and chances turned into the occasional goal. We were massively ahead in possession stats in the first half but couldn’t turn it into goals. Doyle needs to go see a sports psychologist to convince him he’s a striker. In fact, scrub that, it’s me who needs convincing he’s a striker.

That's a bit shitty.

Yes he missed a couple, but the keeper made some great saves, one cleared off the line. He won pretty much every decent cross in the air, even when under pressure. 

The one in the second half was poor, but he was there continually, and no one else really got into the right area to attack the crosses.

He stuck at it though, and was instinctive in getting in the right place for the equaliser.

Without doubt the most natural one in the squad and we'd be fucked without him.

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1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's a bit shitty.

Yes he missed a couple, but the keeper made some great saves, one cleared off the line. He won pretty much every decent cross in the air, even when under pressure. 

The one in the second half was poor, but he was there continually, and no one else really got into the right area to attack the crosses.

He stuck at it though, and was instinctive in getting in the right place for the equaliser.

Without doubt the most natural one in the squad and we'd be fucked without him.

A bit shitty? It’s a good job he’s so prolific in front of goal. Without his goal scoring prowess I’m sure we would only be drawing games. 

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2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

A bit shitty? It’s a good job he’s so prolific in front of goal. Without his goal scoring prowess I’m sure we would only be drawing games. 

Kind of proves my point. Definitely shitty. 

Most prolific one we have, only one there to miss them, but of course you can only mock.

You do realise we'd have lost today without the goal.

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1 hour ago, Take Hunt Off said:

Contrary to some on here I thought Cheltenham were decent hardworking & organised they seemed to have more players on the pitch at times.

Plus they had the little annoying twat that most teams in this league seem to have playing up top.

Add to that ours is a decent pitch to play on unlike the usual shitheaps they are used to week in & week out , it gives them a bit of a lift.

Whenever we attacked even at our ‘quickest’ they had men behind the ball.

Anyway it was the best home 45 minutes that we have played , mixture of bad luck good goalkeeping & bad final pass meant 0-0 at HT.

Their goal as bad as it was came against the run of play.We definitely lost our way after that even the belated entrance of Arthur failed to galvanise the team & Isgrove switching didn’t work.

At the end of the day the tenacity of Arthur saved the day , why he wasn’t starting baffles me after Tues nights effort.

Young  left fullback gave us some balance but the other loanee guy shouldn’t have started ahead of Arthur.

Can’t figure Evatt out , he is a contrary individual.Then again a lot of managers are.

We need a result next week to get some momentum.

Not disputing that because I cant think of a good half we have played this season at home.  But we only played well for about 15 minutes, nothing happened for half an hour and as someone else said we kept passing it back.  So its a real indictment of IE if that was as good as it gets, I can think of some bad seasons but never have we failed to have a decent half at home by mid January.

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9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Without doubt the most natural one in the squad and we'd be fucked without him.

Is he really, well probably in the squad, but that not saying much.

All I see is him scoring tap in's, missing a lot of chances and anything form any distance he rarely gets on target. I struggle to see how he was top scorer last season with the form he has shown for us. Virtually every other team has a striker who has scored more than Doyle!

However he not the worst of out problems and seems to be a grafter so will give him that, but natural goalscorer I'm not having.

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4 minutes ago, MickyD said:

A bit shitty? It’s a good job he’s so prolific in front of goal. Without his goal scoring prowess I’m sure we would only be drawing games. 

He had an off day definitely,  but still scored . In fairness to him he works his bollocks off and normally with threadbare service to go off , not forgetting his tracking back and chasing down yhe channels. 

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3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Well put, but that one on the line after watching the replays, one or 2 inches either way and it's in, cracking clearance tbh.

He should have had no opportunity to clear, was a free header, 4 yards out? But yes defender did do well, our striker didn't.

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1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

Well put, but that one on the line after watching the replays, one or 2 inches either way and it's in, cracking clearance tbh.

Yes.

Lad works hard too, moving away from centre too much early on to help make things happen. As we started to dominate and he got more central we caused them loads of problems.

Dunno what some are watching at time. He needs more help and supply, but it seems if he's not notching every time he shoots, he's crap.

Fonz isn't fit to lace his boots.

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2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Kind of proves my point. Definitely shitty. 

Most prolific one we have, only one there to miss them, but of course you can only mock.

You do realise we'd have lost today without the goal.

And do you realise we’d have won if one of the others had gone in. I get their keeper had a blinder but if a striker puts the ball out of reach... 

pours seem to use keepers as a target to aim at!

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Just now, JimmyRiddle said:

He should have had no opportunity to clear, was a free header, 4 yards out? But yes defender did do well, our striker didn't.

Why?

A looping cross that he does well to win. Not a free header.

All you see is him scoring tap ins?

Well fuck me, what a cunt eh? Lineker, fowler et al made a career out of being in the right place at the right time. Our lad does it, and its a cause for criticism.

Fucking hell.

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Doyle was well supplied at Swindon had the luxury of a very pacey attacking team around him his chances with us won’t be the same he needs to be more clinical 

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2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why?

A looping cross that he does well to win. Not a free header.

All you see is him scoring tap ins?

Well fuck me, what a cunt eh? Lineker, fowler et al made a career out of being in the right place at the right time. Our lad does it, and its a cause for criticism.

Fucking hell.

Of course it was a free header the keeper came and missed it ffs?

If he had scored 20 tap in's then I may be inclined to agree with you, but a JT that boy is not

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Just now, MickyD said:

And do you realise we’d have won if one of the others had gone in. I get their keeper had a blinder but if a striker puts the ball out of reach... 

pours seem to use keepers as a target to aim at!

Quite possibly. 

You assume anyone else would have been there to put it on goal.

Pathetic suggesting he's not a striker.

 

 

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