marple whites 106 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Watching the highlights you can’t believe we only drew. isgrove got all the crosses in for the chances first half. we should be dealing with a header that far out for their goal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Farrelli 317 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 8 hours ago, Casino said: Injury Visibly in pain in tunnel that is not good news, our luck with injuries is beyond belief. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pauldeva 1 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Alot of people on here say this division is shite but I think we underestimated how good it is. Some decent tidy football played by most of the teams. No world beating players but some good ones. Until we have eleven above average players for this division we are going nowhere. At the moment we have 5 players who are better than most in this division and one of those is Jackson. Most of the players just aren't good enough that's why we are so inconsistent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Farrelli 317 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, marple whites said: Watching the highlights you can’t believe we only drew. isgrove got all the crosses in for the chances first half. we should be dealing with a header that far out for their goal. Agree, the header should have been dealt with. Santos was busy wrestling with their other centre half. Isgrove had his best game yet IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kane57 163 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said: So which Bolton player do you think has taken games by the “scruff of the neck” in the last 12 months? Hahaha none of them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Biggish Dave 540 Posted January 17 Site Supporter Share Posted January 17 If our midfield was better, Doyle wouldn’t have to come deep half as often and could use more energy being on the shoulder of the last defender. In a better team, he’d have 15 already. Sure, he’s no ALF but more than good enough for this level. I’d want a new keeper, 2 new centre halves, a destroyer in midfield and a target man before even assessing whether he’s the man or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members MickyD 996 Posted January 17 Members Share Posted January 17 12 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said: If our midfield was better, Doyle wouldn’t have to come deep half as often and could use more energy being on the shoulder of the last defender. In a better team, he’d have 15 already. Sure, he’s no ALF but more than good enough for this level. I’d want a new keeper, 2 new centre halves, a destroyer in midfield and a target man before even assessing whether he’s the man or not. So half a team needs replacing? That’s the worry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pauldeva 1 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, MickyD said: So half a team needs replacing? That’s the worry. From yesterdays team. Gilks, Jones, Delaney, Isgrove, Thomasson, Elbouzedi are either average at best, not good enough or not ready. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Biggish Dave 540 Posted January 17 Site Supporter Share Posted January 17 8 minutes ago, MickyD said: So half a team needs replacing? That’s the worry. Correct, it is a worry. The 2 centre halves scare me to death when crosses come in. I’d prefer Brockbank or Baptiste and Greenidge there to be honest, they won’t be any worse. Our midfield, especially at home gets carved open far too easily and there’s no focal point to hold the ball up. We are simply nowhere near where we need to be for promotion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket 1,575 Posted January 17 Site Supporter Share Posted January 17 12 minutes ago, pauldeva said: From yesterdays team. Gilks, Jones, Delaney, Isgrove, Thomasson, Elbouzedi are either average at best, not good enough or not ready. Isgrove who was the best supplier in the game. Thomasson, who did indeed give the ball away a couple ot times, but who is streets ahead of Crawford in all round play. Delaney made an important fuck up, but generally was OK and in a defence which largely nullified whatever was chucked at them. Could go on. We're in the 4th division, the days of top flight and European football are a distant past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mounts Kipper 2,518 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I think couple of players of the right quality and in the right positions will make all the difference, however we are running out of time we need them sooner rather than later if we are to mount a challenge for the play offs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pauldeva 1 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Youve based those comments on one game, yesterdays. Isgrove isn't good enough. Thomasson isn't ready to play every game. Delaney has been poor in the games we've played four at the back. Do go on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ani 1,157 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Evatt says Lee withdrawn as feeling his groin but more of a precaution than an injury........hopefully. The big difference when we had the good spell in first half we were not giving the ball away easily and had an outlet on both sides. New left back did well, not convinced by the winger, but let's see Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mounts Kipper 2,518 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Ani said: Evatt says Lee withdrawn as feeling his groin but more of a precaution than an injury........hopefully. The big difference when we had the good spell in first half we were not giving the ball away easily and had an outlet on both sides. New left back did well, not convinced by the winger, but let's see Big worry Is the groin over compensating for his hip which has been where his injury issues have been. When I had bad hip the groin and back suffered as much as the hip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rudy 1,198 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Big worry Is the groin over compensating for his hip which has been where his injury issues have been. When I had bad hip the groin and back suffered as much as the hip. Might be tightness from a lack of full matches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket 1,575 Posted January 17 Site Supporter Share Posted January 17 29 minutes ago, pauldeva said: Youve based those comments on one game, yesterdays. Isgrove isn't good enough. Thomasson isn't ready to play every game. Delaney has been poor in the games we've played four at the back. Do go on Isgrove isn't my favourite by any means. Who else are you playing wide right? Thomasson has played continuously since his debut apart from Tuesday. Still well above Crawford, and it clearly showed yesterday when he went off. Who else is replacing Delaney- Greenidge perhaps, but not obviously any better. So easy to say so many aren't good enough because results aren't the best, but emotions run high during games and it doesn't matter how many headers a defender clears, it is always the one he doesn't that dictates he's shite. Can apply similar comments to others. Keeper was terrible on their goal, so therefore isnt good enough etc. There are only a couple that wouldn't be near the first team for me at the moment, and that is because an apparent lack of effore/interest. Nothing to do with their ability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mounts Kipper 2,518 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, Rudy said: Might be tightness from a lack of full matches. Hopefully not connected to his previous hip problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rudy 1,198 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Hopefully not connected to his previous hip problems. Did he have an op? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mounts Kipper 2,518 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Rudy said: Did he have an op? He did but not sure what the op was. heard his running stats were much lower after the op. https://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/sheffield-wednesday-kieran-lee-nears-return-hip-injury-470967 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rizlar 61 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Lee is a major gamble I just hope he plays frequently because you can see he is a decent player I cannot believe people having a go about about the new player from Lincokn ffs give him a chance and the comments about Doyle give your heads a wobble . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pauldeva 1 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Isgrove isn't my favourite by any means. Who else are you playing wide right? Thomasson has played continuously since his debut apart from Tuesday. Still well above Crawford, and it clearly showed yesterday when he went off. Who else is replacing Delaney- Greenidge perhaps, but not obviously any better. So easy to say so many aren't good enough because results aren't the best, but emotions run high during games and it doesn't matter how many headers a defender clears, it is always the one he doesn't that dictates he's shite. Can apply similar comments to others. Keeper was terrible on their goal, so therefore isnt good enough etc. There are only a couple that wouldn't be near the first team for me at the moment, and that is because an apparent lack of effore/interest. Nothing to do with their ability. I'm not saying I have any answers or that we have better options although I thought Ghnoua should have started after his cameo on Tuesday. Just pointing out that if and until Evatt is able to replace these players we have no chance of moving very far up the league. We're in a transfer window and to have any chance of going up, we need a goalkeeper, centre back and a better winger than Isgrove. I think its been obvious for a while that this is the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rudy 1,198 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: He did but not sure what the op was. heard his running stats were much lower after the op. https://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/sheffield-wednesday-kieran-lee-nears-return-hip-injury-470967 I’d imagine he be used sparingly with Tutte. Doubt he’s going to play twice a week Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mounts Kipper 2,518 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Rudy said: I’d imagine he be used sparingly with Tutte. Doubt he’s going to play twice a week He played nearly 30 games in 2019-20 season so you’d hope he’s well over the hip operation. Fingers crossed he’s ok as he could be big player if he gets up to speed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members MickyD 996 Posted January 17 Members Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Keeper was terrible on their goal, so therefore isnt good enough etc. Yet yesterday evening, as I was lambasting Doyle based on his woeful display in front of goal in that day’s game, you said my comment was a bit shitty. The next day, based on a single mistake by Gilkes which just happened to result in their goal, he’s suddenly not good enough. Based only on his presence behind a fairly weak defence I’d say he has absolute right to his place in the team. Any other keeper coming in must have the same or a better command of the positional play by the back 3, 4 or 5 defenders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casino 2,369 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 He was taking the piss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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