W.cramp Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I see the league 1 and league 2 salary cap has been withdrawn. I guess that's a pretty good move and good timing for us with the transfer embargo ending in summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted February 9, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2021 Can I hear that kettle, Bolton boiling piss again in summer. Even if we spend peanuts, we'll still be accused of trying to buy the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Nice work of FV and AG for getting it temporarily brought in whilst we were under embargo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Big E said: Nice work of FV and AG for getting it temporarily brought in whilst we were under embargo The implication being that we wouldn't be as high as 20th if our opponents hadn't had to curb their spending 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) Jeez, just watch Sunderland spend. I always thought the actual size, making footballers at Div.3 & 4 levels on wages that could be earned in ordinary life was unnecessarily low. ... & the gap between 2 & 3 has been crazy. There does need to be some limit though, related to turnover &/or ability to pay. BTW, I looked on BBC Football News on line. It was the 6th item. Below 4 right-on, equality based bllx. Puts us in our place. Edited February 9, 2021 by Dr. Feelgood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted February 9, 2021 Members Share Posted February 9, 2021 Shazza in the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 9, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2021 Can't see us spending much anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 It’s only good if money is available next season, if we stop down I’d imagine things will be extremely tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny The Ball Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Be interesting to see what they put in its place at the League meeting later in the week BBC report mentions reverting back to FFP and something called the salary cost management protocol Which in English means League 2 clubs can spend 55% of their turnover on salaries (60% in League 1 ) Given impact of Covid that sounds like pay cuts all round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I’m a big fan of the cap. Think it worked in our favour massively. Not sure how we as a club will react to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 09/02/2021 at 17:25, Dr. Feelgood said: Jeez, just watch Sunderland spend. I always thought the actual size, making footballers at Div.3 & 4 levels on wages that could be earned in ordinary life was unnecessarily low. ... & the gap between 2 & 3 has been crazy. There does need to be some limit though, related to turnover &/or ability to pay. BTW, I looked on BBC Football News on line. It was the 6th item. Below 4 right-on, equality based bllx. Puts us in our place. That's coz it wasnt specifically about wimmin, race, disability or BLT"s. Anyway wage cap would never work. Its communism dont you know?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Barrow have a surplus of over 22 players...They have deregistered the players out with injuries and offered them furlough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 On 10/02/2021 at 21:26, tomski said: I’m a big fan of the cap. Think it worked in our favour massively. Not sure how we as a club will react to this There’s no problem with a cap in principle tomski but it has to be based on more than just the league you’re in. Clubs with more resources can’t be limited to the same as those with limited resources, club turnover and fan base must be taken into account. We have aspirations of going much higher whereas most teams in L2 either don’t want to, or can’t afford to push higher. Restricting the amount we can pay to our best, or young players, just ensures we lose them to teams higher up. FV intend to run the club sustainably but should be allowed to invest in talent where they see fit, not held back by rules not fit for purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Cap should be related to turnover or some other financial parameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 hours ago, Whitesince63 said: There’s no problem with a cap in principle tomski but it has to be based on more than just the league you’re in. Clubs with more resources can’t be limited to the same as those with limited resources, club turnover and fan base must be taken into account. We have aspirations of going much higher whereas most teams in L2 either don’t want to, or can’t afford to push higher. Restricting the amount we can pay to our best, or young players, just ensures we lose them to teams higher up. FV intend to run the club sustainably but should be allowed to invest in talent where they see fit, not held back by rules not fit for purpose. I like the sentiment but the reality will be wank when you realise we have 9k fans and a small turnover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Big E said: I like the sentiment but the reality will be wank when you realise we have 9k fans and a small turnover. Well even 9k fans is three times as many as some of the clubs in L2 have and our turnover equally is massive compared to others, just look at the iFollow numbers as a start. I don’t know why some like you try to talk the club down. We’re at the lowest point in our history and still bigger in every respect than any other club in this division and most of those in the one above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said: Well even 9k fans is three times as many as some of the clubs in L2 have and our turnover equally is massive compared to others, just look at the iFollow numbers as a start. I don’t know why some like you try to talk the club down. We’re at the lowest point in our history and still bigger in every respect than any other club in this division and most of those in the one above. It’s the reality. I am not talking us down but people think we can buy the league. That’s not how we operate / can operate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I’m not talking about buying the league BigE, I’m talking about our capability to aspire to a higher level compared to most in this league but if we’re tied financially to the level of the lowest it’s unfair and unrealistic. Anyway, the caps been scrapped, rightly in my view and hopefully we can still run the club sustainably and succeed at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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