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2 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

I may be talking shite here but Williams reminds me of Steve McManaman when he first came onto the scene, same physically and attitude wise, almost an arrogant strut about him, could turn out to be a very good player

I was more thinking Paul Warhurst but a long way from both of them in terms of class

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MOTM today Williams; won everything and was unlucky to get booked as he won the ball

Williams has some engine on him, he runs all day long, proper worker in the middle of the park, exactly what we missed earlier in the season. Not the prettiest player, won’t score a lot of goals,

Dead right Burnden and why has nobody given John credit for firing the ball in at the defender who was facing goal leaving him no chance of avoiding it. I don’t think it was as much a fluke own goal a

16 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Players need a run of games to start showing what they can do, Evatt will be aware that we can't to many players chances to find their feet, but as long as the other 10 around him are covering and supporting him that's fine, if in another 2 or 3 games he's not showing much, then its upto Evatt to make that decision, at the moment we stick with him, mainly because nobody better is taking his place, you've also got to remember the loan situation, something like 5 loans allowed, it's either Maddison or Zebeedee, Maddison all day for me.

Agree on that, but how Zebedee would be ahead of Darcy is anyone's guess.

But you could argue the "run of games" for any player in the squad.  Darcy, Zebedee, Tutte and definitely Arthur.  They haven't had a run of games to show what they can do.  No denying they are treated differently to MM, and I'm as desperate for him to succeed as anyone. They are left out of the starting XI/squad as a default, MM starts as a default, he will have to do something bad to get himself out of the team.

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1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Agree on that, but how Zebedee would be ahead of Darcy is anyone's guess.

But you could argue the "run of games" for any player in the squad.  Darcy, Zebedee, Tutte and definitely Arthur.  They haven't had a run of games to show what they can do.  No denying they are treated differently to MM, and I'm as desperate for him to succeed as anyone. They are left out of the starting XI/squad as a default, MM starts as a default, he will have to do something bad to get himself out of the team.

Tutte is bang average compared to Tomason, Lee or Williams, he isn't getting back in. 

Maddison will come good because Evatt will give him that chance.

 

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2 hours ago, Casino said:

Sarc ain't pretty but without him, we don't score

I noticed he closed the Southend defenders down and stopped them strolling forward unchallenged with the ball, something that we hadn't done previously in this game. Worth his appearance for that alone.

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14 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Agree on that, but how Zebedee would be ahead of Darcy is anyone's guess.

But you could argue the "run of games" for any player in the squad.  Darcy, Zebedee, Tutte and definitely Arthur.  They haven't had a run of games to show what they can do.  No denying they are treated differently to MM, and I'm as desperate for him to succeed as anyone. They are left out of the starting XI/squad as a default, MM starts as a default, he will have to do something bad to get himself out of the team.

Darcy probably one for the future, evatt has said that those thrown in last season weren’t ready, I’m thinking Darcy being the main one, got to trust evatt on this one. 

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8 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Tutte is bang average compared to Tomason, Lee or Williams, he isn't getting back in. 

Maddison will come good because Evatt will give him that chance.

 

Doesn't seem that long ago we were all distraught if Tutte or Delaney missed a game. We've come a long way this last few weeks.

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3 minutes ago, tkonion said:

Doesn't seem that long ago we were all distraught if Tutte or Delaney missed a game. We've come a long way this last few weeks.

Honestly pal, I wasn't, didn't know what all the fuss was about, Delaney is shite and always as been, Tutte looked okay and that's it, in a desperate underperforming team. We were crying out for a solid central midfielder and unfortunately at the time he was all we had. 

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7 minutes ago, tkonion said:

I noticed he closed the Southend defenders down and stopped them strolling forward unchallenged with the ball, something that we hadn't done previously in this game. Worth his appearance for that alone.

This. Looked like a player who had some competition when he came on . Good to see . 

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4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Honestly pal, I wasn't, didn't know what all the fuss was about, Delaney is shite and always as been, Tutte looked okay and that's it, in a desperate underperforming team. We were crying out for a solid central midfielder and unfortunately at the time he was all we had. 

Games are coming thick and fast and both players will possibly get a game a game at some stage. Tutte has been decent for us and I don't think will let us down, we can only hope that Delaney shows the form that he was in around November if he is called upon.

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1 hour ago, Mr Grey said:

Thank you for being so understanding, my shithousery on a Saturday night, even after todays win is unforgivable 😁

Any time boss 

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1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Maddison will need 4/5 games to get into it, don’t forget there’s no reserve league for match fitness like years gone 

He looks better every game some of his passing today was exceptional 

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1 minute ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

The Southend manager claims that high ball 'could' have gone out of play and curled back in !!

Like I 'could' have made my own paté de foie gras & pumpernickle bread today. I mean, I didn't ... but I could have.

I read that earlier, the main word that came from his mouth was 'Could', ... in other words he doesn't know, however he seems a decent fella and is doing a top job in the circumstances.

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10 minutes ago, Rudy said:

He looks better every game some of his passing today was exceptional 

He put a couple of great balls across the six yard line at Mansfield that were crying out to be knocked in but Doyle was in his heels both times and today produced at least a couple more. He gave it away a few times but no more than anyone else, the touch and passing accuracy throughout was terrible, bobbly pitch or not. He's slowly getting there I think. 

We won, got three points, jump on the coach and get out of town, wins like Mansfield and today make promotion pushes. But, we have to start finding a way of making it easier to win games on bad pitches against alehouse teams, we'll get a few more of both over the next couple of months. We still have too many who disappear when it turns into a park pitch game.

Evatt's clearly got more options off the bench, which is great, but still within one style of playing, which wasn't working until we got a scruffy, flukey goal. Opportunity was there in window to get a target man in and have a Plan B to go long, by pass the meadow and cause chances through getting the ball into dangerous areas quicker. Evatt's more than a bit stubborn and evidently not having that as an option. We could easily have chucked that today persisting with stroking it about at the back on a battlefield, especially when Gilks is no modern day keeper. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

He put a couple of great balls across the six yard line at Mansfield that were crying out to be knocked in but Doyle was in his heels both times and today produced at least a couple more. He gave it away a few times but no more than anyone else, the touch and passing accuracy throughout was terrible, bobbly pitch or not. He's slowly getting there I think. 

We won, got three points, jump on the coach and get out of town, wins like Mansfield and today make promotion pushes. But, we have to start finding a way of making it easier to win games on bad pitches against alehouse teams, we'll get a few more of both over the next couple of months. We still have too many who disappear when it turns into a park pitch game.

Evatt's clearly got more options off the bench, which is great, but still within one style of playing, which wasn't working until we got a scruffy, flukey goal. Opportunity was there in window to get a target man in and have a Plan B to go long, by pass the meadow and cause chances through getting the ball into dangerous areas quicker. Evatt's more than a bit stubborn and evidently not having that as an option. We could easily have chucked that today persisting with stroking it about at the back on a battlefield, especially when Gilks is no modern day keeper. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’m hoping Miller is that type of hold up the ball target man, would think he could be utilised alongside Doyle in a 4-4-2 which would give us another style of play and a different option. 

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7 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Evatt's clearly got more options off the bench, which is great, but still within one style of playing, which wasn't working until we got a scruffy, flukey goal. Opportunity was there in window to get a target man in and have a Plan B to go long, by pass the meadow and cause chances through getting the ball into dangerous areas quicker. Evatt's more than a bit stubborn and evidently not having that as an option. We could easily have chucked that today persisting with stroking it about at the back on a battlefield, especially when Gilks is no modern day keeper. 

Jesus Ian, be careful with outrageous comments like using a target man in the 4 div, it's akin to clubbing baby seals to some on here.

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55 minutes ago, tkonion said:

I noticed he closed the Southend defenders down and stopped them strolling forward unchallenged with the ball, something that we hadn't done previously in this game. Worth his appearance for that alone.

I doubt he’d be able to press in that situation if he’d started the game so it worked well on that front.

I’d expect Sarcevic to play in behind Doyle as he regains fitness, but it’s a nice problem to have, particularly as I can’t help thinking that Maddison would be more effective down the middle. 

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1 hour ago, tkonion said:

I noticed he closed the Southend defenders down and stopped them strolling forward unchallenged with the ball, something that we hadn't done previously in this game. Worth his appearance for that alone.

That’s because MM just watches and does FA. Hope he starts to improve but on the performance so far he has shown little quality or effort. Lee was doing his job and Maddison’s at times

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31 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

That’s because MM just watches and does FA. Hope he starts to improve but on the performance so far he has shown little quality or effort. Lee was doing his job and Maddison’s at times

Agreed, some of Sarce's best work is off the ball. Madison had his best game so far for us today IMO, he looked sharper, calmer, had a good shot just wide and delivered some decent balls in, grafter he isn't though.

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11 hours ago, desperado said:

I’ll take you on.

Even though I’ve never bemoaned Thomasons replacements, or vehemently criticism criticised IE for his selections, I was surprised Thomason was left out after being part of our renaissance and upturn in form. 

But I admit IE has got it right these last 2 games and I put trust in him that he will continue to do this.

As it happens I don’t think this is the last we’ll see of Thomason. On reflection these last 2 games and pitches wouldn’t have suited him, maybe its at home we might see more of him.

Do you not agree that he has potential, that IE has brought the best out in him, that his vision and passing is as good as anything we have in the squad and that he will have a part to play both this season and in the future? 

He is a promising player who does the basics very well. Seeing as everyone is so desperate to get out of this league, I cant see us doing that with him being a regular starter in the team.

He gets on the bench for me, thats about it.

It looks like IE is now thinking the same.

I would have him training with is and on loan at Chorley or Altrincham for the first half of next season.

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