Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 7, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted March 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, Dimron said: Perhaps we should all now set up a charity to give every front line NHS nurse, cleaner and driver £1,000 each for a holiday. Beats standing at the front door banging a saucepan. Fuck the government, they are reverting to type and do not represent the population. Which population is that? You work for a private company I presume? People pay taxes, it pays for the public sector. I'm intrigued as to what you reckon the level of taxation should be, and what wages everyone therein should be paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 7, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted March 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, Offshore said: Vaccination bounce effect. How the fuck people can forget almost 130,000 mainly unavoidable deaths is beyond comprehension. Mainly unavoidable- kinell wish you'd shared the secret with the scientific community about 15 months back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted March 7, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted March 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Mainly unavoidable- kinell wish you'd shared the secret with the scientific community about 15 months back. To be fair, we have a pretty shit death rate compared to reasonably comparable countries. We have to consider how a covid death is accounted for of course but I think when it is all sorted out we did particularly shite. However, for balance, our furlough and vaccine efforts have been superior to those similar countries. It will all, fucking hopefully, come out in the wash when we all eventually get back to some normality. Then we can all start arguing about Brexit again 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeep Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 58 minutes ago, Offshore said: I'd slap the fucker with a fish.............. A live fish, or a dead fish? And which kind of fish? Details man, details....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) The Taxpayer's Alliance are largely compromised of grasping selfish tight-fisted nouveau-riche c*nts who ideally would like to dodge even the last bit of taxation they've been unable to avoid. I'd send them to some low-tax third world shithole where they could live in some fortress-like compound and have flame-throwered up Humvees... Tossers. Edited March 7, 2021 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted March 7, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2021 They are getting a pay rise. I don’t see what the problem is 🤷🏻♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Offshore said: Vaccination bounce effect. How the fuck people can forget almost 130,000 mainly unavoidable deaths is beyond comprehension. Unavoidable? Go on then I’ll bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: Really? 13 points ahead in the latest polls suggests you and your like are off beam. I have voted for all four parties in my time (I include the Greens when they put a candidate forward) My particular "type" does not slavishly follow populist cults, I tend to make my own mind up based on the facts I am presented with and I recommend anyone getting carried away to put their foot on the ball, look around and ask the question... what is best for the UK team? But... I still cannot get my head around how parts of Bolton and its neighbours can become Tory Seats after the damage their austerity has caused over the last 12 years. I was of the opinion that Cameron was the worst PM in history but it has all gone further downhill since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dimron said: I have voted for all four parties in my time (I include the Greens when they put a candidate forward) My particular "type" does not slavishly follow populist cults, I tend to make my own mind up based on the facts I am presented with and I recommend anyone getting carried away to put their foot on the ball, look around and ask the question... what is best for the UK team? But... I still cannot get my head around how parts of Bolton and its neighbours can become Tory Seats after the damage their austerity has caused over the last 12 years. I was of the opinion that Cameron was the worst PM in history but it has all gone further downhill since then. Who would have been a better option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Who would have been a better option? They're all as piss poor as each other but I really don't like the narrow minded decision making the Etonian old boy chumocracy gives us. People seem to think "Boris is our friend", he's not, he is a scheming toffee nosed privileged cunt at the end of the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Which population is that? You work for a private company I presume? People pay taxes, it pays for the public sector. I'm intrigued as to what you reckon the level of taxation should be, and what wages everyone therein should be paid. Yes I do, I had a problem at Christmas and after threatening to twat the MD, him and me have been getting on like old pals again. But the nurses don't have that direct access to resolving any grievances. The long term plan seems to be to run the NHS down (we were short of nurses pre-pandemic) so that American outsourcing can step in, going to see your GP will be like seeing your dentist or optician within the next 10 years, Visa cards ready when you make your appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 7, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, royal white said: Unavoidable? Go on then I’ll bite. I think it might be better to ask whether he actually meant unavoidable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Casino said: I think it might be better to ask whether he actually meant unavoidable @Offshoredid you actually mean unavoidable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 7, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2021 if he thinks they were unavoidable, not really a case for bozo to answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Casino said: if he thinks they were unavoidable, not really a case for bozo to answer But what if he thinks they were unavoidable but he also thinks he knows what unavoidable means, but it does not mean what he thinks it means ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I'd ignore that, Dimron is making a case for normality without the odd division. There will always be right vs left, but I mainly thought the decent folk on here were sensible without an agenda. Which is why the boring lot are, erm, boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 10 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: I'd ignore that, Dimron is making a case for normality without the odd division. There will always be right vs left, but I mainly thought the decent folk on here were sensible without an agenda. Which is why the boring lot are, erm, boring. I might come across as a closet lefty but I'll be voting Conservative in the Local Elections? Why? Because we have a hard working conscientious councillor who gets things done... but stands as a Conservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 11 hours ago, royal white said: Unavoidable? Go on then I’ll bite. Take a look at South Korea. 1600ish deaths to date. In the main because they had professionals running a strict and effective test and trace system. Many other details which I won't bore you with here, but they didn't pay their mates billions to fuck everything up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, jeep said: A live fish, or a dead fish? And which kind of fish? Details man, details....... A large fish, a decent sized salmon or maybe a cod. A rotting, smelling fish that leaves a lingering stench. Edited March 8, 2021 by Offshore removal of a comma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, Offshore said: A large fish, a decent sized salmon or maybe a cod. A rotting, smelling, fish that leaves a lingering stench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted March 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Offshore said: Take a look at South Korea. 1600ish deaths to date. In the main because they had professionals running a strict and effective test and trace system. Many other details which I won't bore you with here, but they didn't pay their mates billions to fuck everything up. They already had an infrastructure in place, following their issues with sars. They have a very different society, far more respectful, and willing to wear masks as a matter of routine. The Western world largely didn't, and has a very different, more liberal society. Too say we should have had x,y, or z in place; politically that's a really tough sell for any party until it happens. As for everything being fucked up... are you taking up your vaccine offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Dimron said: ...we have a hard working conscientious councillor who gets things done... for now. He'll change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted March 8, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 8, 2021 I'm not an expert in any other society, but as a percentage, what other countries have as many old folk as us? Then are they packed like sardines into houses badged as retirement homes? That's not on Boris, you can knock him all you want. He's our democratically leader and I can't see a fucking chance of that changing this decade, unless he steps down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted March 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, Carlos said: I'm not an expert in any other society, but as a percentage, what other countries have as many old folk as us? Then are they packed like sardines into houses badged as retirement homes? That's not on Boris, you can knock him all you want. He's our democratically leader and I can't see a fucking chance of that changing this decade, unless he steps down. Not really for this thread I suppose, but I believe we'll know better following any future investigations. However an interesting statistic the other day: Vietnam has 18% of its population classed as overweight. Ours is 63%. A shit load of factors will come out- however the obesity epidemic is showing its effects in all ways, and apparently the budget has made more money available for tackling the problem. Invest in preventative measures now, to save later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Carlos said: I'm not an expert in any other society, but as a percentage, what other countries have as many old folk as us? Then are they packed like sardines into houses badged as retirement homes? That's not on Boris, you can knock him all you want. He's our democratically leader and I can't see a fucking chance of that changing this decade, unless he steps down. Strangly, the three countries with 20%+ of over 65s are Japan, Italy and Germany. (Don't mention the war). UK is typical of major countries with 18.5%, less than France but more than USA. Obesity seems to be a major factor in Covid-19 death levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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