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3 hours ago, Rizlar said:

Some of the comments on here baffle me for several seasons I have hated football sick of seeing us lose going a goal down and then expecting us to lose. 

Leaving home games early because we are losing and knowing we are not getting back in the game.

Even early in the season it was shit I for 1 slated IE but he as proven me wrong I see group of players who give a shit and never give up a manager who also gives a shit directors who give a shit.

Enjoy as I am  doing being a wanderer its brilliant not felt like this for years so I dont care if we only win 1-0 it's a win you get nothing for losing 5-3 ! 

On another note  son bought me a book it's called Remember when and it's full of of newspaper reports of our matches from the 1920s to 2020 if you haven't got 1 get 1 its brilliant looking at the past great birthday or xmas present comes in a presentation box .

Yep, it’s fantastic.

I was bought that book at Christmas. She won’t tell me how much it cost though...

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18 minutes ago, Steejay said:

Yep, it’s fantastic.

I was bought that book at Christmas. She won’t tell me how much it cost though...

Really enjoyed reading about the 1920s. The West Ham cup final in particular. Looking at the attendances, we clearly were a massive deal.

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3 hours ago, Rizlar said:

Some of the comments on here baffle me for several seasons I have hated football sick of seeing us lose going a goal down and then expecting us to lose. 

Leaving home games early because we are losing and knowing we are not getting back in the game.

Even early in the season it was shit I for 1 slated IE but he as proven me wrong I see group of players who give a shit and never give up a manager who also gives a shit directors who give a shit.

Enjoy as I am  doing being a wanderer its brilliant not felt like this for years so I dont care if we only win 1-0 it's a win you get nothing for losing 5-3 ! 

On another note  son bought me a book it's called Remember when and it's full of of newspaper reports of our matches from the 1920s to 2020 if you haven't got 1 get 1 its brilliant looking at the past great birthday or xmas present comes in a presentation box .

Agreed, I got it as a present a couple of years ago, a great read and keepsake.  And because its all reproductions of newspapers sports pages, you get other stuff too that adds a bit of context, other match reports and news etc.

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7 minutes ago, Ani said:

Where is that from? Assumes does not include Championship ? 

It was on that MEN report further up the thread, and yes includes all EFL clubs

 

And according to a report in the Daily Telegraph this week, Wanderers boasts the fifth highest number of subscribers over iFollow in the entire EFL, comprising the Championship, League One and League Two.

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3 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said:

It was on that MEN report further up the thread, and yes includes all EFL clubs

 

And according to a report in the Daily Telegraph this week, Wanderers boasts the fifth highest number of subscribers over iFollow in the entire EFL, comprising the Championship, League One and League Two.

Maybe the fact that season ticket holders get free home games helps to boost our viewing figures?

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16 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Maybe the fact that season ticket holders get free home games helps to boost our viewing figures?

I was talking to a Stoke fan the other day and he watches their games on i-follow but has to pay for every game as they didn't sell any S/Ts (as in, they weren't for sale, not that nobody wanted one).  It made me wonder how many EFL clubs other than us have S/T holders, and so get i-follow free.  It seems hard to believe that the likes of Forest, Derby, Sunderland, Norwich, Sheff Wed wouldn't have more interest in their game than we do in ours especially given how poor we were till recently.  The stats need a bit more context to mean a lot.

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2 hours ago, Casino said:

Lets look at the last 13 games

By being more offensive the maximum extra points we could've gained is 4

Is it really worth the risk?

 

This might well be the highest points any bolton team has gathered from 13 consecutive games and thats why i believe any criticism is crackers

Smacks of evatt outers desperately looking for an angle

 

Spot on. Absolutely no one is saying we cant improve or we wouldn't want to score more goals.

However (and its the same people who have doubted Evatt all along) are calling for changes to the team or formation and saying we are not scoring 'enough' goals. We are scoring enough at the moment we are winning! Now we have one of the usual suspects hinting we should be top because we have the best players its just like other club supporters saying we are buying success or Hugh Mungus ridiculing 'Brand Evatt ' Give the guy some credit FFS he has brought in a whole new philosophy and its still developing.  First defeat and you just know they will be slagging him off.  

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32 minutes ago, Rudy said:

I’m wondering who’s above us?

Sunderland, Portsmouth, Boro, Norwich?

We went through this yesterday. Many of the bigger Championship clubs don’t use iFollow 

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2 hours ago, Casino said:

Lets look at the last 13 games

By being more offensive the maximum extra points we could've gained is 4

Is it really worth the risk?

 

This might well be the highest points any bolton team has gathered from 13 consecutive games and thats why i believe any criticism is crackers

Smacks of evatt outers desperately looking for an angle

 

Casino, you’re completely missing the point. It isn’t about how many more points we could have got but how many we could have potentially lost by not seeing teams off. We didn’t, which is great and I hope we will make the highest points any Bolton team has won from 13 games and actually add another 9 games to that too, but my feeling is that we are so much better than the opposition, we could without great risk, have scored more. As has been pointed out earlier, we have created chances and either missed them or had them blocked. Any of those could have benefitted us but also, there have been times where we have just sat back and slowed things down which has left us open to conceding at the end, a bad refereeing decision, a clumsy tackle or even a slip from Gilks like Cambridge.

Nobody’s criticising and certainly not IE who has done a brilliant job and who I think we trust implicitly, but even he has claimed frustration at us not winning by more, so criticising fans on here for saying the same things seems a bit silly frankly. It’s an opinion and obviously one shared by the manager so less of the stupid “Evatt outers” nonsense please.

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1 minute ago, Whitesince63 said:

Casino, you’re completely missing the point. It isn’t about how many more points we could have got but how many we could have potentially lost by not seeing teams off. We didn’t, which is great and I hope we will make the highest points any Bolton team has won from 13 games and actually add another 9 games to that too, but my feeling is that we are so much better than the opposition, we could without great risk, have scored more. As has been pointed out earlier, we have created chances and either missed them or had them blocked. Any of those could have benefitted us but also, there have been times where we have just sat back and slowed things down which has left us open to conceding at the end, a bad refereeing decision, a clumsy tackle or even a slip from Gilks like Cambridge.

Nobody’s criticising and certainly not IE who has done a brilliant job and who I think we trust implicitly, but even he has claimed frustration at us not winning by more, so criticising fans on here for saying the same things seems a bit silly frankly. It’s an opinion and obviously one shared by the manager so less of the stupid “Evatt outers” nonsense please.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. We control the tempo, we manage the game, we decide when to press when to push players forward. Everyone knows their role.

When you’re so in control of a game you dictate how it’s going. We do that, with formation, tempo and tactics. It’s not about blowing teams away with goals it’s about not giving them a sniff. 
It’s great game management, conserving energy and tiring teams out. 
Yes a slip, bad decision could happen but then we control how the game goes after any goal conceded. 
Walsall was prime example of that. 

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57 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said:

It was on that MEN report further up the thread, and yes includes all EFL clubs

 

And according to a report in the Daily Telegraph this week, Wanderers boasts the fifth highest number of subscribers over iFollow in the entire EFL, comprising the Championship, League One and League Two.

Cheers can not read the D.T. Article but they are impressive numbers 

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9 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Casino, you’re completely missing the point. It isn’t about how many more points we could have got but how many we could have potentially lost by not seeing teams off. We didn’t, which is great and I hope we will make the highest points any Bolton team has won from 13 games and actually add another 9 games to that too, but my feeling is that we are so much better than the opposition, we could without great risk, have scored more. As has been pointed out earlier, we have created chances and either missed them or had them blocked. Any of those could have benefitted us but also, there have been times where we have just sat back and slowed things down which has left us open to conceding at the end, a bad refereeing decision, a clumsy tackle or even a slip from Gilks like Cambridge.

Nobody’s criticising and certainly not IE who has done a brilliant job and who I think we trust implicitly, but even he has claimed frustration at us not winning by more, so criticising fans on here for saying the same things seems a bit silly frankly. It’s an opinion and obviously one shared by the manager so less of the stupid “Evatt outers” nonsense please.

But it is not that that people are saying. According to the posts on here we have 'been lucky' and 'results have papered over cracks' which is nonsense. We have dominated and controlled games. 

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3 minutes ago, Rudy said:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. We control the tempo, we manage the game, we decide when to press when to push players forward. Everyone knows their role.

When you’re so in control of a game you dictate how it’s going. We do that, with formation, tempo and tactics. It’s not about blowing teams away with goals it’s about not giving them a sniff. 
It’s great game management, conserving energy and tiring teams out. 
Yes a slip, bad decision could happen but then we control how the game goes after any goal conceded. 
Walsall was prime example of that. 

Look Rudy, nobody’s saying we don’t control the tempo and manage the game, we’ve been superb in that since January. We work on tiring out the opposition and I fully understand all that. I’m not complaining about any of it, just observing that when we score we seem to drop the tempo and allow the opposition onto us instead of pushing our advantage and superiority to score again. Thankfully, our defence is excellent and most teams in this league aren’t good enough to get through us but my point is that it only takes one slip to give our goal advantage away and drop points. I’m afraid I have to completely disagree with your assertion that if we concede late we can then control how the game goes. Quite the reverse in fact because it not only deflates our players but energises the opposition as was the case with Cambridge when the game was well won until Gilks slip because after that it really lifted Cambridge and had us hanging on. 

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