Leaderboard

Booing is at its core an attempt to silence an opinion and an expression. Which is poor but not untypical of the general mindset of those who profess freedom of speech but really just want to be free to offend those they see as 'other.'

It sounds exhausting being you.

The players have said several times that its a gesture against racism. I thought society had reached a point where it was agreed that racism is a bad thing? Personally, I'm of the opinion that if someone boos a gesture against racism, then its a fair assumption that they're a racist and therefore a prick. If that makes me a snowflake, a virtue signaller, a screecher, well I'll live with it.

Tory politics only thrive if they have an enemy, it was the miners and unions then, followed by the Falklands and Europe, Woke and culture wars today. They also have an uncanny knack of getting their enemies' troops to turn on their leaders by offering them little bits of aspiration, but in the end these little Thatcherists and Boris lovers will never actually be accepted into their society

Scargill was proved right it was so easy to make a mine uneconomical by spending millions of pounds on machinery not needed and building swish new canteens, Thatcher was a vindictive bitch and wanted to crush unions and communities what despised her and her policies.

This thread has reached it's end and should be closed. no one is going to agree.. If my players feel strongly enough about something and wish to make a point I won't condemn them. If a bloke stands next to me and boos my team just before kick off then he will get what he deserves

I did enjoy the fans, of the club that left one city fro another without regard for their fans, critising their manager for doing exactly the same.

I rather suspect they'd see the link straightaway. Are you seriously telling me that at 92 football league clubs (roughly 25 professionals at each) all of those people have exactly the same opinion? I'm sure you'd like them to have. They won't have though. There'll be plenty too wary to speak their mind and say "this is a load of virtue signalling crap". We have had years with anti-racism stuff at the football - I can remember it and supported it way back in the early 1990s. As others have said earlier on the thread if they walked on the pitch with a banner saying "footballers against racism" nobody would bat an eyelid. The problem is this act is linked to the finger-wagging wokery and the hectoring and lecturing of which people up and down the land have had enough. It's been said on here today - if you boo or disagree with taking the knee, that automatically makes you a racist. However ... Cyril Regis, Brendan Batson and Laurie Cunningham could tell you all about what racism in football grounds really sounds like. So could our own George Oghani and Roger Walker. Its utterly disgusting that people make lazy assumptions and brand people as racist if they object to political wokery infiltrating this great game of ours. Just as they seek to impose it on all aspects of our lives.

I’ve seen more people outraged and vocal over players taking a knee than actual racism

What's bizarre is you've never met me. Yet you assume I am a racist. People are sick to the back teeth with wokery and virtue-signalling. We've had years and years of it. This is another example of it - along with the slavish support it receives. Did it ever occur to you that it might be against this backdrop that people are protesting against? Of course from the mountain top of virtue you've put yourself on - where you are able to pronounce as to whether people are racist or not - that type of subtlety gets lost. But anyway - I'm clearly a racist, so my views don't count. End of debate really as far as you are concerned isn't.

And there we have it in a nutshell. The kind of warped thinking that leads to such anger and frustration with wokery. These days its not enough to be against something (like racism) You have to prove time and again that you are against it and signal your virtue. It was not too dissimilar in the USSR and other repressive societies where different views of the world were not tolerated. Being a member of "the party" was not enough. You had to effusively and publicly praise the party and its leadership time and again, otherwise you came under suspicion of being subversive. If that's the kind of sinister society you wish to live in you are very welcome. I'm sure they'd welcome your approach in North Korea. Saddam Hussain would have quite liked your method - you'd have been great in one of those staged gatheringa in front of the TV cameras where people protested their undying loyalty to their great leader to avoid the firing squad. It may not surprise you to learn that millions of us do not want this type of society. This is not the way in a democracy with freedom of speech and freedom of expression. In this instance its ... "if you don't agree with me, that automatically makes you a racist" and should be excluded from debate. You've used the words yourself. It is truly disturbing. And where else does it lead?

I hear you're a racist now Father Hanley 🤣

Freedom of expression is freedom of expression. If you want to take the knee, take the knee. If you want to applaud people taking the knee - applaud. If you want to boo people taking the knee because you think its yet another example vacuous virtue-signalling - boo it. Telling people to stop booing is at its core an attempt to silence an opinion and an expression. Which is poor but not untypical of the general mindset of those who deify the knee taking gesture.

There are no losers in this 😊, as desperado just said its a fantastic gesture Rudy 👍

Love drinking on match day.

I was just happy to be back in a ground for a league game / happy to see so many fellow fans turn out in shite weather / happy to see us earn a point against a team who'll be a good benchmark of where we're at / happy to see the team battling to the last kick of the game. Yeah, we could have won, but we could have lost. Yeah, xyz should have done better Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Just great to be back right now.

It was all going so well until Rudy went down on one knee

Was proud of our fans today. Brilliant.