Tonge moor green jacket
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Oh, ey up.
Cunt's out.
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Last remaining Battle of Britain pilot has died, aged 105.
End of an era.
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16 hours ago, Farrelli said:
I struggle with your logic. Putin wants to fragment the western allies and with Trumps help he is succeeding. There is not much more to say.
Well, there clearly is
European nations are arguably closer militarily than they have been for years. certainly not weakened.
So much combined training, interoperability, and expansion.
He may have threatened actions that would have weakened NATO, but that was all about spending.
His economic policies are a different issue altogether.
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9 hours ago, BobyBrno said:
You’ve posted a link from the Daily Mail. For that reason, I disregard every thing you’ve just said. That’s how it works.😉
The article is proof positive of what I was saying.
Farage made a point which was entirely valid, but broke a taboo in saying so, and was immediately tagged.
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8 hours ago, London Wanderer said:
How come some posters only ever post about foreign criminals?
Maybe we need a foreigners behaving badly thread
Maybe because it's a thread about issues within our country, of which excess migration is a particularly salient one.
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Iirc, the prison population was badly affected.
Suppose it would be.
That documentary on board the aircraft carrier, when it hit, was revealing. No matter how hard they tried to prevent, and slow infection, it still got them.
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Must watch that Lockerbie drama.
Was at university at the time, and lots of students were killed, so it has always stuck with me.
Went to the memorial a few years ago, it's relatively understated part of a remembrance garden, which is perhaps more appropriate, and spent time reading names.
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Or, terrorists are still active, and they're stopping future, murderous attacks.
Can phrase it however you want.
The fact that hostages were taken, and are still there, says plenty about Hamas, and perhaps does justify their action.
Taking a step back though, are you, or anyone else surprised?
Is there really any chance of genuine, long lasting peace in the region?
Just another bump in a pothole ridden road.
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Will Trump put tariffs on visiting teams?
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The paragraph about him playing when he'd asked not to, doesn't seem to suggest a continued problem.
Others may do.
All a bit strange given the amounts involved.
Puts Zico's covid booze bill into a greater light!
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A reasonable point, though contrary to a popular trope, Farage has never issued racist abuse.
It is nevertheless a convenient tool to beat him with
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5 hours ago, gonzo said:
I just cracked on working. It was fucking ace bar losing shit loads of work.
Roads were empty. People were glad to see us the break their days up.
Had folk dangling cash out of windows with string 🤣
All seems like a mad dream.
Good way of putting it that.
Was saying to the other half, how it seems to have faded somewhat.
Maybe the brain's way of shutting it all away.
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38 minutes ago, tomski said:
Brierfield/Dr Fox looks like it’s finally becoming a big prayer room. They’ve played the long game. Must of been gone 10 years.
An educational establishment amongst other things.
Walked past it a few times and there is/was a notice on the fence with the planning applicant's details.
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8 hours ago, little whitt said:
was up for £3 million for the Building next door too
been brought by RAYGUNS
What I heard too.
Prayer room or some such.
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5 minutes ago, Farrelli said:
Of course but to pull the plug overnight is a very dangerous and irresponsible act.
Indeed.
But they have now reinstated aid to Ukraine and have got Europe to cough up more.
Reckon we can all agree some of his methods leave a lot to be desired- Ukraine clearly- but maybe the threat to other NATO members in his first term was necessary for that to happen.
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2 minutes ago, royal white said:
They’ve also pretty much failed in some of their more recent larger conflicts.
Haha.
Size isn't everything! 😁
I don't concur with the "duty" idea though.
Things changed during and post WW2, and they became the power they are today in response to the Japanese, Russia (cold war) and subsequently the middle east and terrorism.
Out of necessity for their own protection, but also as a part of a bigger umbrella organisation. Which is great, but it should be incumbent upon all members to do their bit.
Just like a football team and squad, pulling together in the same direction.
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1 minute ago, gonzo said:
America have spent a century bowling about being the world's police.
As leaders of the free world they've kind of got a duty.
In which case those that are being protected, ought to pay their dues.
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28 minutes ago, kent_white said:
Not really. Because that is the way the security architecture has been designed since the end of the second world war. And the US has a higher GDP than the whole of Europe combined.
I'm sure as a continent we could do more - but that would likely mean further integration with the EU and a 'European Army' which would be a political nightmare to try and set up.
Gdp and gdp per capita are indeed higher.
That said, the relative spend on the military is also higher by the US, and other nations should pull their weight.
I disagree about the integration though.
There is already a high degree of interoperability within NATO and that is expanding.
The US also sells more arms abroad than anyone else, including to NATO partners and beyond.
There is no reason to undertake an additional, parallel course, with undoubted duplication.
A European army may also be subject to more political influence, as opposed to NATO, that manages to encapsulate many different cultures in one organisation. Clearly Trump has made suggestions over funding previously, but they were justified.
There are also many smaller elements of western allies selling both components and finished equipment to each other.
All useful when pushing for continued development of equipment, rather than having one source.
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1 minute ago, Sweep said:
The reality is that we don't have to, but we're happy to, as it's not our money that's being frittered away. If Europe really wanted to, I'm sure they could mass/join together and send Russia packing within a few weeks, there's just little/no appetite to do so, it seems
Yep, though that may be changing- Starmer's coalition reportedly at 30 countries now.
Not before time.
I reckon Vlad and his henchmen will be able to read the situation now, and will be realising that a ceasefire is in their interests too.
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Just for accuracy and some balance, it should be remembered that the US has agreed to restart military aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine.
Undoubtedly to put pressure on Russia.
Again, it's been a rather sorry tale of international diplomacy, but the intent is there, and it may pay prove successful.
The proof of the pudding and l all that.
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42 minutes ago, Casino said:
others = india
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If their reports aren't accurate, then bbc etc must also be inaccurate.
What they do show is how war time recruitment changes dramatically.
As I said above, we can't judge on that basis, as we did similar in the world war.
Terribly distasteful, but war is.
As a nation, Ukraine also has different cultural attitudes than us, and until they have had years of independence and free and fair elections, some of those differences will remain.
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1 hour ago, SalCity Biggie said:
I'm just hoping Schumacher knows his best 11 soon and starts playing them so they can gel together for the playoff push, can't be doing them any favours playing and then getting dropped, but he did say they needed a break and the international break will do them some good.
Onwards we push
Certainly an argument towards that, but we aren't good enough yet to impose ourselves on every opponent, with a given 11 (or 13/14) as a main squad.
Some consistency lacking.
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I was watching "Gone Fishing" the other day, and Mortimer poached an egg in a mug, with a drop of water, in a microwave.
Reckon I'll try it.
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11 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:
What has he stolen? Show me lines and what hes been able to keep.
You expect Ukraine to keep fighting with limited back up. Have you seen what's happening in Ukraine ... forcing men to fight?
Nobody knows if it's the right direction but surely it's better than what's currently going on with fuck all else on offer.
Imagine the below being your lad or someone you know. See the whole thread and not just the first.
I'd know I'd be looking for a peace deal just to stop Ukrainians being forced to participate and slaughtered.
Maybe you're against that ... I know you're not but there's no right outcome to ALL of this.
I've heard about such moves before.
Firstly, can we be sure that that video is genuine, and what it is purported to be?
Is there an agenda by Lord Bebo, and could it be a pro-Russian account.
If it is genuine, then bear in mind, the approach Britain took to conscientious objectors.
There are also reports of some young men, as newly trained soldiers, leaving their posts.
Are there any videos of Russian young men being dragged into service, as there are reports of some young recruits being thrust into the meatgrinder, poorly trained, poorly armed, with senior soldiers behind them ready to put a bullet into them if they don't go forward.
The fog of war sadly, and I'm sure there are many examples of unpleasant events in both countries.
I wouldn't be using videos (possibly unverified) from unknown sources to back up a claim either way.
Thankfully, we're not in the war and aren't subject to those societal changes required.
Meanwhile In England
in Behind The Stands
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Aye, although a tad cool with the easterly breeze.
Maybe they're getting better at evading authorities!